They aren't protecting you. They are protecting themselves from what you may give their enemies. Don't think just because the federal government is doing something "for the people" that nominally it's not about the government itself. National security is literally the government protecting itself by protecting its citizens.
Pretty much this! Also it is much easier and cheaper to tell Google to stop offering tiktok in their app store then it is to build affordable housing where it is needed..
Yea but where? There’s a push for it in my state. Drove past a new area that will be a neighborhood of cookie cutter SFH, probably with driveways too short to contain full size vehicles. And they’ll cost more than half a million so I’m not sure how that’s affordable. Anyway. It’s being built on the flood plain. 8/10 flood factor.
Facebook sold personal data to a foreign organization called Cambridge Analytica who used it to influence our elections. If their motivations are to protect us via protecting themselves, why is Facebook not banned, and not even in the discussion of being banned?
And we should ban them too. I love this argument. We need better user data privacy laws, and this whataboutism does not change the fact that China is a hostile foreign nation.
I can appreciate that people view Google and Meta and so on as very similar in their transgressions. But as was pointed out in the original comment, this is a cost to benefit ratio type of analysis for the federal government and they gain more by keeping Meta and Google going and can enact other measures to prevent that from hurting them (usually reactionary), so to them this is fine. It is and always has been about what the US government can to do protect itself and enrich itself. Enrichment doesn't always come in the form of monetary value.
If you're upset at your own government (or government adjacent tech entities) gathering this type of data from users, you should be for banning them too, not keeping tik tok.
Americans are the people of giant trucks, meat for every meal, and suburban blight; their government reflects their interests.
Maybe once your older generations die out and young people get educated and start voting things will change. But for now, no, Americans don’t get to whine about the government they literally chose. As long as there’s a practical path to change and the vast majority choose not to follow that path, it’s their own damn fault.
Only in America do you get people blaming the politicians that their parents and grandparents elected. That makes zero sense. Blame your grandparents. Blame your friends for being too lazy to vote.
I’m on board with the sentiment but are we really defending TikTok? I haven’t kept up on the issue but personally I wouldn’t cry if TikTok went away.
We are not defending tiktok
Didn't you know that if you criticize one thing it means the opposite is perfect and beyond reproach!
Ok but fuck tik Tok. Ban that shit. This comment is basically saying that banning tik Tok takes the same effort as giving your people healthcare.
The amount of time and money the American government and associated propaganda agencies (they call them news ) have spent on anti TikTok (really just a racist anti China campaign) would definitely have made a huge difference if spent on their social safety net.
Yeah, tik tok is only hastening the collapse of civilization.
*40 year inflation brought on because the government wanted 14 years of free money for Corporations.
Monetary policy and Corporate price gouging are the drivers for inflation. Everything else is noise.
Ok because I see a lot of stupid shit in here, you don't get to talk about banning tiktok if you don't talk about banning Instagram, Reddit, X and YouTube, who use the same formula, with equal fervour.
Now please talk about healthcare, climate crisis, the Palestinian ethnic cleansing by that cancerous, land grabbing, terrorist Israeli state and the shrinking buying power of the people all around the world.
Then you should have voted blue, idiot. This situation exists because of apathy and antigovernment sentiment.
Did Clinton ever undo all the load of crap Reagan and Bush gave us?
Clinton is one the few presidents in the last 100 years that has operated on a SURPLUS. Meaning he’s the only president to lower the national debt
H. W. actually fought against the Reaganomics himself, so while the two didn't agree on foreign policy there wasn't much that had to be undone between Bush and Clinton.
uhhhh, the blue that's currently in power?
House is 220 R to 212 D
Senate is 51 D (+I) to 49 R
The last time there was a Dem Supermajority was over a decade ago and it lasted about a month.
And the Supreme Court is stacked with Republicans with lifetime appointments. That supreme court has been taking bribes and they can't be removed without a supermajority vote.
But yes the blue currently in power that tried multiple times to cancel student loan debt, enshrine reproductive rights, protect and expand healthcare coverage, raise the minimum wage. The current blue that successfully ended several huge corporate mergers, fined companies for raising prices of goods, and has a housing plan to add 3 Million available units. Literally everything the meme cares about and more is as simple as voting correctly for your interests.
Holding one of three branches is not "in power."
All spending bills have to originate in the republican controlled house. Anything the administration tries to do on it's own has to survive a heavily politicized Supreme Court. A Supreme Court that would be radically different without the Trump presidency. We'll be dealing with those Trump appointees for a generation and they'll do far more harm than he ever did. Not enough people voting blue in 2016 is going to have very long lasting consequences.
Got news for you, their not protecting us from Tik Tok either.
Calling Republicans government...smh
How can Steve ban tiktok if Doug won't let him mitigate homelessness? Why is Bob talking about housing when Alex is gung-ho on genocide?
Sorry, I meant to ask: how can the government ban tiktok when the government won't do anything about homelessness? How can the government be proud of mitigating homelessness when the government supports genocide?
Citizens United must be a curse from a Greek god. A funny little jab to highlight our tendency to oversimplify.
Im down with the idea of social media being a threat to citizens for so long as the algorithms optimize for anger.
On the other hand, I'm not sure I'd prefer another "opiate of the masses".
Mostly agreed, but is anyone really getting minimum wage? Walmart pays double that to start in my little town.
Idaho has federal minimum and iirc laws preventing county or city minimums to be higher than the state minimum. Lots of service and farmhand jobs there are at minimum wage. One of the places I used to work was saught after in the town because they pay higher than minimum. I made $7.50/hr
Farm jobs will never be $15/hr in Your lifetime
Go to places like KY, IN, TN, WV. Probably LA, and MS. They regularly start people @ minimum wage, and the rents are about 2/3 what I would pay in San Diego.
If min was 15 wal mart would pay 30, son.
I think the funniest thing that happens if Trump wins is everyone is all the journalists being forced to make truth social accounts. Then they can ask the worlds oldest president to clarify his new ban on cat ladies and trans people.
If he does win, he will be removed within 2 weeks after inauguration if not sooner. Trump is losing his marbles fast to dementia. Anybody who votes for Trump better love Vance.
They aren't protecting us from TikTok, they're protecting themselves from TikTok. As a foreign entity, they have zero control of TikTok.
"a genocide" LOL...this palestine propaganda is really getting out og hand. it is one of the many current genocides. russians wiping out cultures and nations, china on tibet or the uigurs, shit syria on aramaics and assyrians, fucking turkey on kurds and armenians. but yeah...it is "one" genocide now. kids are fucking stupid.
You had me in the first part, NGL.
How dare you assume I was talking about Palestine, I was talking about the Uyghurs in China.
Watch? That would imply looking at the situation, so no I don't think that's quite the right word...
For one side it's more like "stand back and stand by", if you catch my drift, while for the other it's somewhat like claiming every four years to always have a ready supply of hot sauce stored in one's purse. (you see, a "purse" is a bag that we poors, specifically women, use to carry things - basically it's a nonmoving car where your butler puts all the "things" that you need for the entire day, except you are your own butler, and the purse doesn't drive to anywhere, and it gets heavy!)
"GAAAHHH! I CAN'T STICK A VACUUM CLEANER UP MY WOMB! I'M GOING TO DIE!!!"
What the fuck?
I think they are trying to be funny, but just coming across as an insensitive fuck gnat.
My thoughts exactly
Cuz you already have 4 kids and can barely feed them, yes this but unironically and much less of an asshole.
