I mean, it wouldn't have happened if it was treated as an actual somber moment instead of a star-spangled spit-shine that ended up in two wars and millions of innocent people killed and injured, and marked the point for most kids that nothing was ever going to be good again!
There are people in that very reddit thread trying to argue that the Iraq war somehow can't be connected with 9/11. Why do I hurt myself reading this shit?
for those kids it was, for these kids now its covid, and for the next kids it'll be their whole state burning down or country flooding or when all the crops fail or it just kind of stops raining
I won a lot of free popularity points by letting kids vent about the silly performative PATRIOT DAY bullshit going on around them and even muttered a glib "nevar forget" pronounced exactly that way, letting them know I was tired of that shit too in a plausibly deniable way (administration would lose their shit if I didn't seem "patriotic" enough otherwise).
lmao, for real. my mid 40s older aister, out of nowhere earlier this summer, described something funny (like a movie) as "better than 9-11". cracked me up.
the only people getting choked up about this cultural moment anymore and celebrating patriotism about it while everything has become so obviously a shit show here are absolute rubes.
These kids grew up watching a weekly to daily 9/11 happening around them, in the form of 7 million global deaths from COVID, treated again and again as a total joke. Half the population essentially won't even admit it's real, and even the people who admit it's real tend to have not taken it very seriously at all.
They were constantly threatened for a huge part of their childhood, a lot of them have dead relatives including dead parents, and it's still doing a 9/11 a month just in the US. And 75% of the ones with dead parents gave COVID to their parents because they were forced into a goddamn classroom.
How could they take this seriously? Ask yourself, what makes you feel somber about it- is it the number of deaths? No of course it's not the number of deaths - so what is it? Could it be that you absorbed a cultural phenomenon over the last 22 years that they weren't exposed to? Don't you think maybe you were acculturated into tearing up and saluting so you'd maybe get thirsty for the blood of innocent Muslims?
Not to mention it happened before they were born. You don't give a shit about the Boxer Rebellion, that doesn't make you cry. So why would they care about this overused blip on the radar?
Not to mention this kids living day to day in a climate disaster that all their relatives and societies just choose to ignore and fly to burning islands to "unwind" instead.
Wish someone would ask people like this why they are so desensitized that they just keep doing what they have always done when people are literally getting killed by pavements now.
to be fair thats what all of the previous generations did
(the ones affluent and influentual enough culturally to be the guiding force for the times, of course)
Im too lazy to find it but that one whiney ass fucking article some loser wrote in like 1820 about how "kids these days are too busy reading dang ol BOOKS to LOOK OUT THE DAMN WINDOW like we did in our day!" and the way he talks about it is like every fucking white 54 year old complaining about anything ever
an adult who's still choked up about 9/11.... just when I think I understand Americans. like 60% of their ideology and culture and way of life depends on not giving a shit about 1) historical events that happened in the past, 2) stuff that happened "over there"- and for most of the country New York/DC is "over there". honestly
Covid kills that many people on a nearly daily basis and didn't have to but the treats simply had to flow and social distancing and masking in the early stages before it was a pandemic was too inconvenient for treat consumption.
I never lived in USA and it feels weird for me to joke around other country's tragic event.
That being said, (dark) comedy is a common way of facing tragedy and I also can see why many USA citizens are desensitized on this event. For what I can grasp the reaction was so overly exaggerated that people have had enough.
Don't get me wrong: it was a tragedy, but it's silly to expect everyone to feel personally affected to THAT level even after decades (and most without even knowing one of the victims).
I'm pretty sure that even in that year many citizens might have moved on kinda soon and didn't care THAT much, but would keep quiet to avoid drama. At some point the edgy comedians made people realize not caring THAT much was pretty common and even the kids started openly joking about it.
I think there is an additional dissonance considering the US let a million+ and more of its own citizens die from Covid but we still commemorate the victims of 9/11 as the greatest evil done to the country in recent memory. (That's how I also know Americans don't really believe the claims against China being the origin, producer, and disseminator of the pandemic)
Honestly? I’ve asked some kids why they think it’s a joke and some of them have said “it’s not 9/11 itself that’s funny, it’s the fact that so many of you worship it.” They see that we act like it made us come together and want to fix things, but they also see the authoritarian hellscape we live in that’s their only lived experience and some of them have pieced together they’re related.