please stay there

Lemmy isn't reddit, but whatever it is, they're both the internet.
- It's happening!
  
  Only you can prevent lemmy fires 🐻

Nope, Lemmy is just as toxic as Reddit imo.
- It's far more toxic if hexbear finds the thread.
- i'm pretty new here (came with the exodus), and it seemed like it would be better for a bit. but i just told a family member a couple hours ago that it seems like the worst of reddit is starting to show up.
  
  I actually saw an increase as well, but lately its become friendlier again. I think it might have to do with the recent waves of defederation, but which instance did it, I don't know

We're so special. We're so strong and brave and we're smarter than everyone
- And humble. But I'm the most humble
  
  No IM the most humble.
  
  We're so special. We're so strong and brave and we're smarter than everyone

This meme was true a few months ago. Not so much anymore.
- Yea this is completely untrue now, at least on any post involving economics and/or certain wealthy individuals
- Rip pre-hexbear Lemmy, gone too soon.
  
  Nah, it was creeping in before that. Took off huge with the Sync migration.

It’s better, but I still often see posts with massive amounts of downvotes for no reason.
Also this is specific to SJW, but I often see the opinions from the people that are less invested in the topic being pushed all the way to the bottom, due to the more active people downvoting everything. (agora)
- Is the goal of social media to inform, or be popular?
  Social Media-ites: "Yes".
  :-P

I don't downvote but I still leave toxic comments.
Bitch.

The thing that I hate about it is that I am on the spectrum, and as such have posted things that have gotten down voted to hell and back but even when I ask why, I never get an answer. The question "why is this happening I don't understand" only feeds the down votes. Now, idgaf about internet points, I'd just like to know what's wrong about what I said.
And for the record I'm normal ASD, not the 4chan Hitler shit, so it's not because I said anything racist lol
- Reply with some heavily down voted comments and I will try and help you, if you're willing.
  
  Ty but reddit has been Uninstalled. Originally said the account was deleted but idt that's true actually lol too tired to go through all that
- You've made twelve (12) comments, and none of them or your posts are downvoted. What are you talking about?
  
  I'm talking on reddit. Like the meme refers

They're already here
- And we're getting stronger each day!

Ricin
Haha, a toxic comment. Take that, OP
- Botox
  
  Arsenic!

- That's toxic
  
  ;)
- Shall I dye my hair?
  
  NAH GET A SHOWER

agree, I tried advertising Lemmy to my friends, but when they are showing very little interest in the idea of digital freedom or privacy I just stop trying.
It also doesn't help that one person in question jumped the (reddit) ship to Twitter.
Someone else I tried playes League and OW2.
I made the decision that maybe lemmy isn't for everyone. please stay unpopular/hidden and fun.
- Wait, hold up, I play OW2. How is that an argument against using Lemmy?
  
  I'm sorry, but it's time for you to leave. /s
  But seriously. It's not an argument against using Lemmy. It's more, that OW's community has a reputation for being toxic and he does not want them on here.
  
  Probably that those games have massive reddit communities?
  
  what SomeBoyo said, but also because of stereotypes. You can kinda assume someone's personality by what a they like, and this is not a very joy sparking track record.
  I feel like I have to note: I have nothing aginst you.

Shitty people are like gases: they occupy all the available spaces.

I got permanently banned from personal finance for pointing out that America doesn't have healthcare and it's a sad problem for employees who get trapped.
The mod situation over there is getting comically bad. Hopefully this place ends up being much less toxic.
- No fuck you :-P
  Jk, ily
  It’s true, we dont have healthcare unless your a member of congress, old, or poor. And old and poor people still have really shitty healthcare. The rest of us have “good” health insurance where a medically necessary sleep apnea test consisting of me getting to borrow a $200 sensor for 2 nights and a few minutes of someone analyzing the data, cost me $700 out of pocket.
  
  Between the VA, Medicaid, Medicare, Private Insurance, cash patients, free clinics, HMOs…and then in the prescription world, private insurance, cash discount groups (i.e. GoodRX), store membership programs, and PBMs…America really has literally every type of insurance.
  And unfortunately, the systems that the rest of the civilized world realized long ago are the “best” are, in America, the worst implemented and worst funded (state-funded (by a small flat tax) universal coverage and Medicare, which only covers the most sick and frail chunk of the population)…while the least efficient system (Private insurance) is not only the most common in working-age people, but also often either tied to employers or prohibitively expensive (quite a sticker shock looking at COBRA or Marketplace plans before realizing that healthcare is quite often the second most expensive part of payroll, and for low-wage workers may even be the most expensive).
  And then there’s the VA, which could be a great system, except the government consistently fucks the doctors and the hospitals and surprised-pikachu’s when it falls on its face over and over again.

We still get our share of toxicity here. I mused recently that if you're assessing the success of lemmy/kbin on how close an experience to reddit it is - I've been attacked in the same ways by hyper fixated debate lords here too

You make Reddit look good
- Depends from the point of view, is he protecting, or is he just collecting users.....
  
  Or just doing squats and doesn't even realize there is a tiny man behind him:-P
  
  The end result is the same.

It's not that they downvote, it's how they downvote. Which I've seen some of it here but not as much.
- Yes, downvotea are fine. It's a form of moderation. Downloading things that add to the conversation but you disagree with is childish
  
  I generally try not to downvote comments unless someone says something either very stupid or if it's some sort of propaganda. If someone makes a good argument against me, or just disagrees with me, I don't downvote their replies.

kBin overall seems a lot friendlier. Like, there absolutely a handful of some crappy contrary trolls I've encountered, but not like the 8 per thread on reddit.

Why. Didn't. You. Dodge‽ bleh

Nah, not in my experience.

I think I’ve downvoted less than five times when a headline is clickbait or similar. Downvote does not mean disagree.
- *fewer
  I usually only downvote once, I just use the one account
  
  Language pedantry will always get me. I appreciate it. Thanks!

If only they would... although now that you asked them to do that, they will come here just out of spite:-).
- It funny when people take ownership of something they don’t own :-) I thought people wanted the fediverse to grow?

That is racist. People are shitheads regardless of platform.
- But I am a shithead, so I don't care.
  
  I said 'people'. :)

This assumes that the general Reddit user is even aware that the downvote button is for content moderation (downvoting off topic posts/comments, trolls, and things that are against the rules). The average new user and even probably most of the daily users doesn't know that I'd wager. Further, tone is difficult to read from text, and a lot of the time if I downvote something at all (I don't usually see much point) it's either specifically because the comment or post in question is redundant/adds nothing to the conversation, it's potentially dangerous, or the tone I get from it is trollish or condescending (and therefore toxic). I wonder if that is considered childish or whatever by the people who get downvoted.

Why. Didnt. You. Doooooodge?! bleh

77 downvotes on this post lol