CSS finally adds vertical centering in 2024
CSS finally adds vertical centering in 2024
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Oh wonderful! Another 10 years and we can use it natively without polyfills!
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It's already supported by
96%87% of browsers currently in use.-
I think this is what you should be looking at, which is at 82%
https://caniuse.com/mdn-css_properties_align-content_block_context
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Doesn't stop your manager from requiring support for the other 4%.
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Yeah, pretty much as Flex at 97% which is a nice comparison.Edit: See mattd’s comment
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Why are we not angrier about css generally?
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I am blisteringly angry about CSS in general AND THIS FUCKING ISSUE IN PARTICULAR since 2005 at the very latest. Likely enough to up the average for several thousand people with only mild dislike for CSS.
If CSS had a church I would burn it down. In minecraft of course.
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I would say because a) there are zero alternatives, and b) it's pretty powerful; you can generally do pretty much any layout even if it requires hacks, c) switching to something else is clearly infeasible so it's not worth even asking for.
Just have to live with it (on the web at least).
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What we were promised:
Content in one HTML document.
Styles in other CSS, able to apply any to completely alter the layout of the document.
What we got:
div class="mt mid flex lt-8 no-margin up-1"
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It good
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CSS 3 is solid, mate. You can do just about anything with it if you know what you're doing.
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Some of the pure CSS stuff I've seen is actually insane.
Obviously not actually for real world use, but a great example is https://github.com/kkuchta/css-only-chat
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BaCkWaRdS cOmPaTiBiLiTy 😵💫
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Compared to what? JS? (/joke)
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It's js being the problem in frontend development, not css
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* { display: flex; }
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Is it just me or is the irony lost on the author? It says "align-content: center" but it's only vertically aligned...
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Well that came like 10 years too late lol
I don't think I'll ever use it considering it was already easily possible with flexbox, and before that (although dirtier) with tables as well.
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Well, we've been vertically centring content with no-trick pure CSS for years now, so, good I guess?
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no-trick pure CSS
What do you mean? How else would you center content without CSS?
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There were tons of options with multiple HTML elements with a sequence of CSS properties to reliably provide vertical centering (and also use vertical space at the same time) back in the days.
Now, between flex and grid (mainly flex for me, I find them more convenient) all the HTML scaffolding we used to make this work can be removed to get the same result. That's what I mean with "no trick".
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It's worthless if you have to give it an explicit height, and also if it doesn't have support in all browsers.
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Can we not do away with CSS/JS, learn from those mistakes and try something else? Pls, I beg you 🥺🙏
E: Sorry, forgot the /j Lighten up, Lemmy, not everything is a serious comment that needs your scrutiny or meticulous rebuttals.
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The first pass of elm ecosystem solved it. Before elm, it was also solved by other frameworks. But people wanted to be able to reuse their components and not rebuild new ones. React provided the ability to reuse css, and dirty js code in the middle of your application. You already had an way bigger ecosystem because you didn’t have to learn and built a complete new system again.
Personally if I had the choice I believe a new start should start at the browser level. Stop supporting HTML/CSS/JS. Create a new app-centric DSL and not a document centric one like html/css/js.
Ideally something inspired from cocoa layout. And I am dreaming but not accept generic code on the client side and only support a small controlled API. It would solve so many security issues. Sure, the creativity in such an ecosystem will be severely reduced. But we will have a so much improved UX.
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I get the reasoning but anything like that would just be abused to enshittify things further with unblockable ads and enforced DRM on everything. At least with the open standards there is the ability to adblock and manipulate certain annoyances at a browser level
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Maybe we should start by doing away with x86?
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Intel's way ahead of you.
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i did valign years ago. /s
also i think more needs to be said about a push to localise css (and html, really). the fact that it still requires programmers to be versed in english is pretty sad.
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English is the most spoken language outside of its home country and it uses the simplest alphabet.
It is a pretty sane choice.
You could write yourself a nice preprocessor
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It's a simple alphabet for computing because most of the early developers of computing developed using it and therefore it's supported everywhere. If the Vikings had developed early computers then we could use the 24 futhark runes, wouldn't have upper and lower case to worry about, and you wouldn't need to render curves in fonts because it's all straight lines.
But yeah, agreed. Very widely spoken. But don't translate programming languages automatically; VBA does that for keywords and it's an utter nightmare.
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English source code is a universal language.
I've never seen a need for localization beyond domain terminology. And I think it would be a huge detrimental.
To implement it would be unnecessary significant complexity. Effort better spent elsewhere. And for programmers it'd be confusing. Think code snippets, mixing content, and the need for reserved word expansion or exclusive parsing scopes that would be even more complex and confusing.
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