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My high school computer teacher once ranted about this to us. He said the younger students are lacking the basic concepts of computer stuff. They are spoiled too much to not even know what a file browser is.

One of the reasons I like apps for Lemmy is for notifications.

Coincidentally, one of the reasons companies like apps is for notifications.

One benefit an app for something like Lemmy offers is significantly better customization.

If it’s a service I use regularly on my phone like Lemmy then an app usually does provide a better experience. The UI is usually better optimised and they tend to load faster. However if I’m only using it once, or if I’ve just visited your site then stop trying to get me to use the fucking app! That goes for Reddit as well, I have the app installed but if I’m just trying to view a post because I googled something I don’t want to be forced into the app

I mean, I think part of it is because they grew up interacting with apps because parents were, mostly rightly, restricting their children from use of the greater unrestricted web. Every modern parent I know had children who knew which apps on mommy or daddy's phone they were allowed to touch - their games or youtube kids or whatever. These apps provided easy safeguards for parents to rein in their child's internet experience. Even if these methods weren't perfect in their attempt (Elsagate and all that), this was still good practice for allowing your child access to modernity in the times you couldn't fully devote your time to overseeing their activity with relative confidence they were probably not watching wildly inappropriate content.

In a perfect world parents and educators would also be devoting time to teaching their child to navigate the internet and allowing them monitored (with physical eyeballs, not tracking) online browsing time, but I don't think we can rightly fault the kids for not having received that. Rather than grumbling about the situation, I think we'd be better served accepting it for what it is and instead approaching the topic from a stance of: how do we teach them better behavior and help them unlearn these bad habits?

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I'm not a child. But I already have an entire OS running on my phone. Why would I run a browser on top (with all of its UI clutter) so I can use an app.

If I'm going to use an app often, for more than a couple minutes each time, I'm gonna use an app. If I'm just visiting a site for the first time, or I'm just going to stay there a couple seconds (search engines), I'm using the web browser.

Browsers are for browsing the web. Apps (run by the OS, not by a web browser) are for doing things.

They just haven't seen the light yet - I feel like most people from every generation are app'd up.

I prefer using Lemmy with an app because apps are better designed for my screen than an website. It's kind of rare finding an website that looks good on portrait.

Apple brainwashed us with iPod 3Gs and apps

Also people can use Lemmy without apps, it just doesn't have all the same features in the UI which is why people use wrappers

Insta. Facebook. In fact all social media that only lets me see 3-4 messages before demanding I log in. Fuck. You.

i wanted to download a singular PDF file yesterday, and apparently i needed to be logged in to do that? I'm not making a fucking account on whatever scribble.com is for a singular PDF that will help me find my Kojima-name wtf

Well Twitter is awful anyway, so no big deal...

I hear it's dead now anyway.

Laurel Hill is a historical cemetery with a few historical figures buried there. Actually, I think Adrian Balboa's fictional grave is there, too. The app has audio tours and information about the architecture and stuff.

That's how you get a haunted phone

Even menu websites are chock full of Javascript for no reason. It could be a JPEG!

Don't get rid of ordering online, I have bad vision and like sitting for 30 minutes deciding what to buy and how much is way too much to spend on the food I'm getting

Voyager started off as a website(wefwef.app) but is now also an app

Voyager is a Lemmy client.

I know. It grinds my gears how sites of 15+ years ago worked better and loaded faster than the shit we have today.

And the web versions have and constant lightbox that asks you to download the app every fuckin breath you take. Instagram and Twitter being the worst of them all. For the second I don't even touch it. For.instagram I got barnista. And that's cause my wife uses Instagram sometimes .

Reminder that the original Space Jam site is still intact

https://www.spacejam.com/1996/jam.html

Dunkin: “fahk yah! Just wahlk in and Ahsk for yah damn cafee and egg bahgle.”

That escalated quickly.

I used to work for a very large cable company. All of our apps were championed by VPs who had strong personal connections to InfoSys, who got most of the contract work to create and maintain them. Almost nobody actually used the apps - the developers used various tricks to enormously inflate the apparent numbers of users. So essentially they were a mechanism for one large corporation to siphon millions of dollars from another large corporation. My life became a lot happier when I finally realized this and stopped giving a shit about anything.

"Users have no idea what they want" was an actual, frequent quote from them.

It's because they're not designing for the users' wants, they're designing for the users' engagement (or whatever flawed metric they use to determine that). The designers mindlessly equate what keeps the user engaged with what the user wants.

Care to name some of those apps? Genuinely curious, mac computers were (still are) prohibitively expensive and I never knew anyone who had one before the iPhone launched

I don't know the technical reason but, on my phone, the browser takes a few seconds to load every page, while on an app it's way faster.

Of course a good website can beat a shit app. But there's no way that you can build a website that's faster than a good app.

First of all, because your website has to run on an actual app, called a web browser. Additionally, you can't magically remove the initial load time to fetch resources from the server. Those resources are already on your phone on the app so it's instantaneous.

I have one from a brand called Enki and not only they made me dowload an app but I had to make an account as well. And every time I want to use that damn app it has logged me out and I need to type my credentials once again.

I didn't know about Google Home, I'll check if I can use that one instead.