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  • So the people pay money and that gets tripped with money... That was also paid my the people. Okay.

    Having said that, sure, donate.

  • I don't feel like the government should be matching donations to a private organization...it's the f-ing government - either just go help people who need help because they're your people or contract with red cross to do the helping for you with accountability for the job they do.

    Matching private money, hoping its enough to help where they obviously see it's needed, and putting no accountability on the recoever of the money to do anything specific with it is not how to deal with disasters! PR Garbage.

    • Part of the reason to use the Red Cross (or any NGO) is because it can do things outside the full government purview.

      It's also a good way to get money from citizens across the country to assist the people affected. Think of it as AB spending $1 to get $1 from the feds and $1 from citizens/donations. Imagine how people would react if the AB government put out a request for donations directly.

      it's the f-ing government - either just go help people who need help because they're your people or contract with red cross to do the helping for you with accountability for the job they do.

      Agreed, and I believe that both of these are happening in Alberta. The Red Cross is contracted by the AB and local governments to provide certain services in disaster management, and the AB and local governments provide some of the services themselves.

      I don't feel like the government should be matching donations to a private organization

      It's an NGO, not-for-profit, registered charity, with a mandate to provide humanitarian aid. Calling it a "private org" is a bit disingenuous.

      From the Red Cross:

      Donations to the Canadian Red Cross will be used for assisting those impacted in Jasper and other affected areas in Alberta with immediate and ongoing relief including financial assistance, support to evacuees and the communities hosting them, recovery and resilience efforts in response to the wildfires, as well as supporting community preparedness and risk reduction for future all-hazard disaster events within Alberta.

      I don't know how (or if) AB audits this, which is the crux of your issue with it I guess, but in a way they don't have to. If the Red Cross provides services for Albertans in a manner that is close to the value AB spent, they haven't lost anything. Hopefully it's (much) better than break even though.

      And before we get into the efficiency of the Red Cross for dollars donated, remember we're talking about governments here. They're not exactly the paragons of efficient spending.

  • Let’s see some commitments to dealing with climate change first. It sounds heartless, but I’d rather not slap some bandages on a severed limb.

    • This is a pretty ignorant thing to say (let alone heartless, as you admitted.)

      First, the amount of money that needs to be committed to deal with climate change is in the billions, and the mere millions they are talking about for matching Red Cross donations are a drop in the bucket.

      Second, you clearly haven't lost your property in a wildfire and have no idea about the devastation this would cause on a personal level. I can't imagine what kind of person you must be to think the individuals don't deserve help because our society has failed to keep climate change in check. What the fuck do you want to deal with climate change for if you don't care about people?

      Third, make them pay and maybe then they'll stop denying climate change. (A pipe dream, I know.)

      • Look what happened in Texas. No power due to capitalism nonsense, asked for federal assistance, got it, and continued to screw over their constituents because of capitalism nonsense. Same thing.

        I was born in AB and moved away finally a decade ago. The willful ignorance and hatred of most of the white people living there towards anything that had a shred of “liberalism” finally became too much. It’s hard to care about people that just want to punish others. Smith could look at this and say, “Yes, this is it, this is now the catalyst for truly doing something about climate change” and the cowboys would vote her out and find someone else to support their hate.

        It’s not about committing money to climate change. It’s about not committing money to oil, drilling, and fracking. It’s about not ignoring scientists and Indigenous people about best practices around fire stewardship. I mean, for crying out loud, how much money have oil companies made off of oil, and how much have they saved on not cleaning up their wells, just for example? The oil companies could step in and rebuild Jasper several times over, but they’re not going to, because it’s all about $$$, and the Smith govt isn’t interested in holding their feet to the fire because that’s their retirement plan (oil exec advisors).

        Smh.

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