There is no fix for Intel’s crashing 13th and 14th Gen CPUs — any damage is permanent

Intel has not halted sales or clawed back any inventory. It will not do a recall, period.

Buy AMD. Got it!

I have a 13 series chip, it had some reproducible crashing issues that so far have subsided by downclocking it. It is in the window they've shared for the oxidation issue. At this point there's no reliable way of knowing to what degree I'm affected, by what type of issue, whether I should wait for the upcoming patch or reach out to see if they'll replace it.

I am not happy about it.

Obviously next time I'd go AMD, just on principle, but this isn't the 90s anymore. I could do a drop-in replacement to another Intel chip, but switching platforms is a very expensive move these days. This isn't just a bad CPU issue, this could lead to having to swap out two multi-hundred dollar componenet, at least on what should have been a solidly future-proof setup for at least five or six years.

I am VERY not happy about it.

Don't worry. I'm sure the $10 Doordash card is coming to an inbox near you!

Intel is about to have a lot of lawsuits on their hands if this delay deny deflect strategy doesn't work out for them. This problem has been going on for over a year and the details Intel lets slip just keep getting worse and worse. The more customers that realize they're getting defective CPUs, the more outcry there'll be for a recall. Intel is going to be in a lot of trouble if they wait until regulators force them to have a recall.

Big moment of truth is next month when they have earnings and we see what the performance impact from dropping voltages will be. Hopefully it'll just be 5% and no more CPUs die. I can't imagine investors will be happy about the cost, though.

A few years ago now I was thinking that it was about time for me to upgrade my desktop (with a case that dates back to 2000 or so, I guess they call them "sleepers" these days?) because some of my usual computer things were taking too long.

And I realized that Intel was selling the 12th generation of the Core at that point, which means the next one was a 13th generation and I dono, I'm not superstitious but I figured if anything went wrong I'd feel pretty darn silly. So I pulled the trigger and got a 12th gen core processor and motherboard and a few other bits.

This is quite amusing in retrospect.

We are giving this failed management team billions of dollars to build "us" a fab

🤡🤡🤡

Ryzens are so gonna sell like hot cakes after this lol. 😅

After literally 14 years of avoiding AMD after getting burned twice I finally went back to team red just a week ago, for a new CPU

so glad I picked them now lol

Is there really still such a market for Intel CPUs? I do not understand that AMDs Zen is so much better and is the superior technology since almost a decade now.

This would be funny if it happened to Nvidia.

Hope Intel recovers from this. Imagine if Nvidia was the only consumer hardware manufacturer....

No one wants that.

I use a 4770k jokes on Intel.

Amd processors have literally always been a better value and rarely have been surpassed by much for long. The only problem they ever had was back in the day they overheated easily. But I will never ever buy an Intel processor on purpose, especially after this.

So like, did Intel lay off or deprecate its QA teams similar to what Microsoft did with Windows? Remember when stability was key and everything else was secondary? Pepperidge farms remembers.

I smell a class action lawsuit brewing

People are freaking out about the lack of a recall but intel says their patch that will supposedly stop currently working cpus from experiencing the overvolt condition that is leading to the failure. So they don't really need to do a recall if currently working CPUs will stay working with the patch in place. As long as they offer some sort of free extended warranty and a good RMA proccess for the CPUs that are already damaged I feel it's fine.

If they RMA with a bump in perf for those affected it might even be positive PR like "they stand by their products" but if they're stingy with responsibility then we should obviously give them hell. We really have to see how they handle this.

Thankfully I haven't had any issues out of my 13700k but it's pretty shitty of Intel to not stand behind their products and do a recall.

So here goes my reason to buy the new gen laptop

So this is why my computer randomly shuts down and freezes up.

And this is why I never purchase a product with a revision code of *.0, and almost always purchase used.

Aw, geeze, I just got gifted a new PC for father's day, now I have shit to do...

Edit 13th Gen Raptor Lake i5-13400F at 65W.

Well, fuck me.

The other day, when this news hit for the first time, I bought two ITM Put options on INTC. Then, I waited three days and sold them for 200% profit. Then, I used the profit to invest in the SOXX etf. Feels good to finally get some profit from INTC’s incompetence.

edit: haters of gambling with the downvotes?

Is this resulting from Intel's use of hidden Minix OS in their CPUs?

I have an Intel Core i9-14900K 3.2 GHz 24-Core LGA 1700 Processor purchased in March. Is there any guesses for the window yet of potential affected CPUs?

Considering AMD has also paused its release of 9th gen Ryzen just before its release date; I wonder if this issue is caused by TSMC.

lol i use 12 gen intel

Anyone know if this microcode patch is already in the Linux kernel?

I guess there’s no cultural memory remaining at Intel of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentium_FDIV_bug?

I predict that they will indeed end up eventually doing a recall despite what they told The Verge, but only after their reputation is even more irreversibly damaged than it already has been due to this issue.

Any real world comparison. Gaming frame rate, video encoding... The 13-700 beats the 7900x while being more energy efficient and costing less.

That's even giving AMD a handicap in the comparison since the 7700x is supposed to be the direct comparison to the 13-700.

I say all this as a longggg time AMD CPU customer. I had planned on buying their CPU before multiple different sources of comparison steered me away this time.