Ford Researching Tech That Snitches on Speeders to the Police
The patent proposal would turn every new Ford on the road into the police's eyes and ears.
So, I'm going to be a voice of reason here, also working for a a major US automaker: there's a 0.0001% chance this would ever be a thing implemented, and is almost definitely just something someone brainstormed and threw in the patent/IP registration system for a nice bonus. We're heavily encouraged to submit ideas, even if there's no real plans to ever implement them, and you can make more than $2k for a couple day's worth of work in some cases.
I've come up with some hilariously dystopian ideas, and I'm more than happy to submit them because I know we'll never bother with implementing them, it keeps other more "ambitious" OEMs from doing it, and the aforementioned monetary bonuses. Just because something is patented, doesn't mean it's going into production next week.
Also, because I know what sub I'm in, before everyone crucifies me here because I work for an automaker, I do so because I want to make a change from the inside, and my job focus is primarily on making vehicles safer for pedestrians and cyclists.
Also, because I know what sub I'm in, before everyone crucifies me here because I work for an automaker, I do so because I want to make a change from the inside, and my job focus is primarily on making vehicles safer for pedestrians and cyclists.
Hey now, this is “cars” not “fuckcars”!
That's my bad. I'm so used to seeing that sub come up on Lemmy, I saw "cars" and my brain filled in the fuck, lol
Oh, I was looking for carsfuck.
GM was already caught snitching to insurance companies. This isn't the leap you make it out to be.
Oh, trust me, I'm well aware of that issue. There's a lot I can say about that as well, but my point was more how I see this type of article posted time and time again, with Tesla a lot of the time, of "Company patents X feature, here's how it'll be the greatest/worst feature in [current model year+1] vehicles!" and it really isn't the case at all. I know of plenty more dystopian shit going on in the industry as a whole, so I know it's not a 0% chance of something like this being implemented. I just felt it's worth being a voice of reason in saying that this isn't necessarily a feature coming to to the MY27, just because someone had some spare time to put together a PowerPoint of an idea they had to submit to Ford's IP lawyers.
Serious question, how much does the IIHS tests affect your job?
A lot of the tests I’ve seen are 1-3 mph from making no contact and mitigating the whole incident when it comes to parallel/perpendicular tests for pedestrian systems.
Does anything other than a acceptable or good rating send you back to the drawing board?
Not really back to the drawing board, but more than likely recalibrating the system to improve performance. EU-NCAP /CN-NCAP are a much bigger deal, at least for vehicles that are sold in the EU/CN market, and poor performance on those can mean pushing for larger changes. But even then, they're seldom "back to the drawing board" just because at that point it's usually way too late in production to make significant changes.
In the US, the new FMVSS 127 requirements are a huge fucking deal, and are making huge waves in the industry right now. Because they're regulatory, meaning if you don't pass you can't sell the vehicle in the US, they've taken what's been a generally low priority in the US to basically priority #1, especially given how tough the requirements are.
We are quite literally going to have to rework basically every single vehicle model we sell to meet it, some of them quite significantly, so it's a much bigger deal than stuff like the IIHS requirements.
Hello serfs. Welcome to 1984. Fuck this dystopia.
I'm trying to understand why is the article implying this is a feature for general population? The article reads "mobilizing individuals’ cars to snitch on the rest of the public" but the patent document continuously refer to illustrated vehicle #1 as a law enforcement or other official capacity vehicle.
This patent strikes me like nothing more than upgraded PD radar system, with some extra features around how the data can be transferred/processed on the fly.
Why would a patent be limited to the illustrated example? Is the patent exclusively for law enforcement vehicles?
Nothing a pair of wire cutters can't fix
Hopefully
A U.S. Patent and Trademark Office submission published July 18 titled “Systems and Methods for Detecting Speeding Violations” describes a way for Ford‘s vehicles to measure the speeds of nearby cars using cameras and sensors, and then potentially report those violations to the police.
Tell me how that would work if I have the right to face my accuser in court?
SCOTUS will just rule that peasants can go fuck themselves.
Wouldn't the accuser be the local prosecutor using evidence submitted by Ford? You could surely challenge how ford collected it, but if they were confident enough to implement, and the prosecutor confident enough to actually use it, then both legal teams would have vetted it thoroughly enough to stand up in court.
Have fun putting that into my '68 Ford Galaxie. Miss me with that.
There's a reason my next car is going to be a early-mid 00s accord/camry/similar
Instead of just putting speed limit governors in cars.
That patent is for snitching on other drivers using the external cameras. Cause speed cameras haven’t caused enough flack.
The cop suddenly start pulling you over every time you speed, kinda weird.
Your new car refuses to go faster than the speed limit "but muh riiiights!" And also one of the perks of owning a vehicle is the sense of freedom of choice.
