TechTakes @awful.systems David Gerard @awful.systems 5 mo. ago

Proton Mail goes AI, security-focused userbase goes ‘what on earth’

pivot-to-ai.com Proton Mail goes AI, security-focused userbase goes ‘what on earth’

If an organization runs a survey in 2024 on whether it should get into AI, then they’ve already bodged an LLM into the system and they’re seeing if they can get away with it. Proton Mail is a priva…

we appear to be the first to write up the outrage coherently too. much thanks to the illustrious @self

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Well, I was contemplating Protonmail...

I'm in the process of degoogling and dewindowing. I'll be dammed if I'm going towards ANYthing even related to"artificial intelligence" if I can help it.

Feckin bullshit.
Eamonn Maguire, author of the Proton Scribe announcement post, responded to my tweet with this: https://x.com/EamonnMagu14645/status/1814062340863651965

We built this as an opt-in alternative to the non-privacy centric options on the market.

Our goal is always privacy by default, we want to make that possible in the GenAI world too given the number of businesses already using it, and the privacy risks other options pose.
the usefulness of any feature should be measured in how deep you can bury its "opt-in" option in the settings pages without hurting its adoption
Great, just as I've decided to switch some services to Proton (mail and VPN).

Now I'll have to reconsider this decision.
Right after this I spot the announcement post on my front page, in !protonprivacy@lemmy.world. I'm surprised just how positive the comments are.
The good news is I barely use Protonmail (or email at all, for that matter).

The bad news is I have a fucking Proton account. Fuck.
Once they activate the acausality module, you can write those responses before they even send the initial email!
"Pro privacy" company that cucked to the state to get a climate activist arrested (against their privacy policy that they sneakily change after the fact) are actually a bunch of typical corporate grifters that sell out their userbase to promote shitty llm garbage? Nawwwwwww. Say it ain't so! It's like every week or month after I argue about these shitty fake privacy companies with idiots in c/privacy I recieve massive vindication. Maybe this is my sign to become a man of faith.
I went to Proton for the explicit reason I didn't want Google scanning all my docs. Glad I moved away from them now, hopefully Fastmail doesn't do the same.
Oh for fucks sake. I don't use their email but I don't want to have to switch VPN service AGAIN.
Never rely on multi services products from a company. I know it’s more practical but you get the real benefits of having spread services.
Rhaa fk, enshitification... I don't want to host my emails...
tbf it's only in the business plans and some of the legacy lifer type plans, but yeah, wildin
It should be an option that is turned off
With Skiff going down at the end of the month and Proton gearing up to start data mining, there are very limited options for private email hosting. Basically Tuta and a few others now.
Permanently Deleted
Glad I stuck with mailbox.org.
i hate proton because they store ips and give them to the police even if they wouldn't need to
Why is that an issue? I deploy local LLMs for work and none of the content they use or generate goes outside the encrypted active domain, so no security issues or privacy issues. The question is how contained the LLM is, that's all.
Mistral isn't trained on copy righted data. It's based off selective databases that were open use. This article in general is full of false information. But I suppose most people only read the headlines.

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