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I said a while back that I was gonna change my name due to my obscene displeasure with the final season but... nah. I'm Stamets. I love my lil gay boy and I love his lil gay family and I love the ship with the weirdly long nacelles.
Stamets is great. I love him.
I love a LOT of the characters on discovery, but I just found the story arcs it ended up telling very... Overblown.
Did the disco really have to save the literal galaxy every season? And skip across time so it could be placed into a pivotal role in every era?
Not a single time, not once, did the disco feel like just another ship in the fleet. It was always THE ship.
Season one is still the best IMO, with the disco being a secret research program hijacked by Lorca for his own purposes. The story felt right. But then the ship and crew just kept being extraordinary not just every season, but in every tiny moment.
I really love all the worldbuilding in Trek, but in disco that always played second fiddle to whatever crisis was going on, which the disco would then inevitably resolve. It was yawn-inducing to me.
Even as I adored lots of the small stuff the series did with the style, characters, and world.
Like Stamets!
Modern Star Trek has its ups and downs. I’m just glad there’s so much of it. Discovery can have a weird National Treasure season, and Picard can have a bumpy Covid year, but there’s probably something interesting going on in Lower Decks or Strange New Worlds. (Or vice versa.)
I’m just happy characters like Stamets weren’t a one off experiment. It’s delightful to see queer folk continue to pop up in the main cast of other shows.
I have two opinions that have not changed since 2016:
First, Discovery, as Star Trek and as science fiction in general, is terrible. Great ideas destroyed by some of the worst writing and direction in the industry.
I will not be taking any questions.
And second, in spite of that, Paul Stamets as a character is one of my favorite in Star Trek. (After the shrooms mellowed him out, of course.)
I'm glad you're sticking with your nick, it suits you and it's a good one to have.
i feel like the answer to what is and isn't canon can be summed up with;
Why do the klingons look different?
They always looked like that, you just didn't notice before.
Canon has always been squishy. The Eugenics Wars takes place in the nineteen-nineties... oh but didn't Voyager's crew visit the nineties? And it was just presented as it was when they were filming? Plus, DISCO had that Elon Musk name drop.
...so the timeline floats up as the present day does. Canon is just a vague sense of the things everyone agrees on.
Personally,
I really dislike the fungus engine. You expect me to believe the Federation developed instant, consequence free warp but gave up on using it on literally any other ship? Silly. Very silly. Oh, but the precursor civilization doing a galaxy wide Genesis project is somehow an unimaginable technological feat.
And yes, I know STE covers the klingon flu. I just think They always looked like that was more elegant.
I really enjoyed most of Discovery. Especially all the genuine queer representation, that shit was overdue. And Michael is a hell of a character, great but flawed and so on.
I just wish the spore drive didn't require the ship to spin around and make silly noises. That alone is responsible for a good 50% of the cringing I did while watching the series.
Doesn't hold a candle to DS9 in most respects tho, which I started rewatching after getting two episodes into the final season of Discovery
Discovery may be canon, but I don't believe that the writers care all that much. They've certainly not made any effort to make it integrate with the rest of Trek.
Lower Decks on the other hand positively revels and the fact that it's canon.
I certainly know which is the more enjoyable of the shows as a result.
Disco certainly had it's up and maybe a bit more downs, but it has some of the best characters. Stamets is great (so please keep the name), and so is Suru. And the relationship between Suru and Michael is one of Treks best imo. And once we got over the speed bumps, Stamets and Culver warmed my icy gay heart when they were on screen together. Tilly and Reno were also great characters.
I found that I enjoy Discocery a lot more watching it a slow pace, about 2 episodes a month. Otherwise, it really dies start to feel like the Michael Burnam hour for me. At a slow pace, it at least feels like it evolves less around one character - possibly since I gave the story time to relax I think. I am enjoying it overall, but Ia mid way through season 4 and will likely just not finish it.
TBH I didn't mind the last season, it was OK. It had the same plotting, pacing and character issues that always seemed to hold back from being anything more than just OK.
Thank God for head canon
Yeah, that hurts a lot to know that the painfully dumb garbage that is discovery became canon
So, Lemmy ask you this kind one,
I have made it to the final season of discovery, and like one or two episodes in, but have sorta lost steam on finishing it based on what was said here on lemmy about the final season.
Worth finishing? Or leave it on a high note.
It totally seemed like the end of the series at the end of the previous season, so I could be fine with letting it go.
Also I am BALLS deep in DS9 now
Coming back to this 2 days later and its still funny as fuck. I need to finish Disco.
I have a feeling you're going to get a lot of use out of this template.
