Spain introduces porn passport to stop kids from watching smut

Politicians keep trying to helicopter parent the entire populations of countries.

Making sure your kids don't go places online before they should, and have conversations with them about it once they reach an age where it happening is inevitable, is something every, single, parent, should do.

Not the fucking state.

And this has to be one the weirdest implementations of porn surveillance I've ever seen.

Wow good job Spain.

I guess this works because email doesn't exist.

I guess this works because file sharing applications and websites don't exist.

I guess this works because VPN's free and paid don't exist.

I guess this works because Tor, i2p, Freenet, and Yggdrasil don't exist.

I guess this works because torrenting doesn't exist.

I guess this works because black markets don't exist.

I guess this works because chat applications don't exist.

To be a fly on the wall of these government meetings where they talk about this shit would surely be the funniest fucking thing in the world.

On the plus side Spains teenagers are about to become extremely computer literate.

So teens learn about Tor & VPNs. This stuff doesn't work. The higher you put the skills to get access, the more they will learn. Nothing motivates teens more than access to adult stuff. Maybe this is really a tech literacy policy.

"Enthusiasts will be able to request extra credits."

Well that's a relief. For a minute there, I was worried.

This ensures traceability through the public key as content providers will consistently receive the same public key when the credential is presented

What a ridiculous system. For some reason I expected that their efforts to offer an illusion of privacy would be better than the obfuscatory bullshit they've leaned on here in order to enable "traceability."

I hope it goes down so badly in Spain that the rest of Europe is once and for all convinced that such schemes to restrict and monitor the web browsing habits of every citizen are ineffective for their stated purpose, needlessly invasive of privacy and freedom, destructive of democracy, and can serve only as a prelude to totalitarianism.

Porn passport = Wanking license

Instead of educating kids, it's much easier to... not, and invade their privacy instead.

Hola señores, necesito más créditos de la pornografía porque sus madres tienen tetas grandes.

Kids can torrent my dude. Been doing it since I was like 13, and that's only because before that I was using limewire, then frostwire, then bearshare, then I found torrents because TPB took over. I've been pirating since I was like 9.

That is to say: This dumb ass bullshit isn't even going to work.

What the fuck is going on with these porn laws wtf

No one expects the Spanish Imposition.

At least it will raise tech literacy among youth. If it isn’t as easy and would require some thinking that’s already better than 99% of homework.

On behalf of teen me and adult me, fuck off

This is a privacy issue but it's a much much much less of a privacy issue than what the EU wants to do with that mandatory internet ID thing. This Spanish concept shows that you don't need complete mass surveillance like other governments try to convince everyone in.

What gets me about this is that, while it would still be bad, they could have mostly avoided the privacy nightmare here with some kind of Zero Knowledge Proof scheme, but the tracking is obviously part of the point.

Idiots. I'm certain that absolutely no one wants this. What a shit show.

Porn is everywhere. It's an endless battle.

The internet should simply be 18+ only at this point.

And then when it doesn't work because of the laws of nature, they can block filesharing sites on account of porning kids up without requiring porn credits.

Wait, what are the credits for? You spend them to watch porn or what? So when you're out of credits you're locked out? Sorry but... wtf?

How long before it gets "breached"

Iirc Spain is one of those countries that makes you install a cert to use some of their government services, which they can then use to MITM all your https connections

Workshop this with me, passporn or pornport? Porn pass?

There's always DVDs of this stuff.... Doesn't have to be online.

It's always porn, isn't it? We don't need to protect children from misinformation, fascism, violence, racism, discrimination or exploitation on the internet, it's always just porn for some reason...

I wish they would just push all the big mainstream porn sites to remove the most abusive misogynistic content rather than slapping these checks on everything.

Also this will never be okay until there is a zero knowledge version that means neither the government, nor the sites, nor any other party can establish a given person's habits which is probably not something they'll ever do because tracking is probably part of the point.

I'm not a fan of the easy access to porn that kids have or the proliferation of the industry in general but I am worried that as part of this harmless things like erotic roleplaying websites will be swept up as part of it and well I use those. And their point is not porn though some people host and share porn as part of it (which is why it'd get swept up with it eventually probably), it's about writing, smutty, erotic writing. And I'd rather not have to tie my identity to my desires to roleplay out an elf who ends up at a gangbang with the wolf-men tribe to my real life identity (I'm not claiming that's something I do there but it's an example of something that would be kind of embarrassing for others to know and it's far from the weirdest stuff that goes on in places like that).

Government having credits for how often I could say log in and continue a long-term erotic writing campaign with someone is just weird but that's the end point of this kind of thing. Having credits seems not helpful anyways, the true porn addicts are just going to download stuff then share it in private forums, discords, p2p, etc. If the point is to stop kids from accessing this the credits thing seems odd.

Wouldn’t it be more effective to just grant each user a way to pass verification with age with a token tied to some system and simply use a Ring signature so that user privacy is preserved and no need for limits?