5d ago

I see these MFs on a daily basis

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I used to think I could just stick to macOS. But I don’t trust the USA and by extension, I don’t trust Apple.
Switching to Linux isn’t a choice anymore. It’s a requirement for freedom.
- Yeah, Apple will just cave when necessary. Honestly, even if the USA is removed from the equation, nobody is really safe from any government or corporation. We're only in better and worse condition because no one has done the unthinkable yet. The UK online safety bill, Signal's threat to leave Sweden, France busting activists using Swiss VPN. If you can't host it yourself, secure it yourself, rebuild it yourself, you can't trust businesses and governments to do these things for you in the long run.
  Hell, it's starting to feel a lot less like freedom and more about the ability to hide, even if you're doing nothing wrong, because someone may eventually decide that what you're doing was wrong.
  Encrypting your chats to keep them from being sold/mined for government oversight? ILLEGAL!
  
  I think you’re 100% correct.
  With all my Apple stuff I thought we were headed for a Star Trek federation. Instead we’re getting a starship troopers federation 😞
  
  The whole doing nothing wrong argument doesn't work when Nazis take over because Nazis will arbitrarily decide that normal things are now deserving of the concentration camp. Basically nobody who is oppressed at any point in history should ever feel like they have nothing to hide. Gay people, women, any minority religious racial Etc are all one Trump tweet away from Guantanamo Bay
- Linux is American by that definition
  
  I'll bite. How? It's open source software championed by a Finnish academic professor.
  
  Yeah that makes zero sense to me
  
  Lots of the money comes from the US and US companies. But as you said, it is open source.
  
  US corporations donate to the Linux Foundation, and in fact all the Platinum members of the Linux Foundation (donors of $500k or more/year) are corporations - although I don't think they're all American. But the Linux Foundation has no control over the code, it merely promotes use of Linux. Did you mean something else by, "Lots of money comes from..."?
  
  That was pretty much what I meant.
  
  He's now American.
  Outside of that a lot of Linux is supported by US companies. If boycotting the US was the goal it is going to be very hard.
  
  I think by America they pretty clearly meant corporate America and its corporate-owned government, neither of which controls how Linux works.
  
  I hate to break it to you but Linux is maintained by corporate America. Everything from the Linux foundation to Linux focused companies like Red Hat, Amazon and Microsoft.
  Sure it is probably better than anything else available but I think it is silly to focus on the region a company is based in when we are talking about international corporations.
  
  Linux focused companies like Microsoft
  my sides
  Being a contributor to an open-source project is not the same as actually owning a "commercial" product. They can voice opinions in the mailing lists, but they don't have direct influence. Sure, some maintainers work for those companies, but I would say that's hardly the same. It's sponsorship, and it's welcome pretty much no matter where it comes from in my view.
  If those companies disappeared overnight, Linux would be fine. Development would be a lot slower, sure, but it wouldn't implode and instantly become worthless like macOS or Windows
  
  I don't know what argument you're having, but what I said was that the Linux Foundation doesn't have any control over the code.

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