Donald Trump considers pulling troops out of Germany
It is understood that the president is considering redeploying personnel to Hungary, which has maintained a close relationship with Russia
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To everyone cheering this idea and wanting or not minding US troops leaving Germany, stop and think a bit first. Those troops are part of the nuclear shield protecting Europe. Removing those troops is not just a few peeps going home, it removes Europe’s most important line of defense.
The only possible backup to that would be getting France and/or the UK using their nukes for the same purpose. That would create a de facto European mini-NATO, if not a full blown European army. Not saying that’s not a great idea, but just think of what it would entail - for starters, who would be the commander in chief of a European army?
Anyone still under the impression that this traitor would shield Europe from Russia hasn't been paying attention for the last 8 years.
The sooner we accept this reality the sooner the EU can take appropriate precautions, up to and including nuclear proliferation to other close partner countries.
Not saying that’s not a great idea, but just think of what it would entail - for starters, who would be the commander in chief of a European army?
Not a foreign adversary, probably France
The EU needs to remove all us military from it's territory, replicate any NATO structures as EU ones and even make sure there are no people in our armies with confused loyalties. This needed to happen before Trump even became a candidate for 2016.
Probably France indeed. In my eyes, he who wields the biggest stick, gets to call the shots.
who would be the commander in chief of a European army?
Pick any random person off the street to command it and you’re probably better off than having to deal with Trump.
Not trying to make light of it, but as an American the rest of the world HAS to isolate and defeat Trump, the American voters clearly aren’t up for it.
At this stage I trust the UK and France more than I trust the US. Not to mention the security implications that Trump is a crony of Putin.
Yes that's right. It's a get your shit together or go bust moment for us here in Europe.
I mean, yes, on paper, they are part of the nuclear shield protecting Europe. But europe still to have USA approval to use those nukes. And i'm definitively not sure Trump administration will ever approve Germany use those nukes, especially against Russia (and russia knows it).
So in practice, i don't think it's more than a piece of paper. It's not a line of defense if the country that own those weapons and troops is hostile / indifferent to an invasion.
It's the same debate than F-35. Yes, on paper, it is better than Gripen, typhoon, eurofighters, or rafales. But if US disable them / refuse to provide parts / give intel to ennemy, then they are basically unusable in a real environment, so it's just a very expensive decoration to use for meeting demonstrations.
So long as Turkey isn't part of it, is a good idea.
I guess that's stuff they'll have to iron out sooner rather than later. Maybe each country contributes a certain amount of resources to the eu army. They don't need one of their own because Europe army protects all countries within the eu.
The one with the most nukes, so this will encourage more EU country to nuke up for safety and save human lives.
