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Trump is living in a Russian-made 'disinformation space,' says Ukraine's Zelenskyy

apnews.com Trump and Zelenskyy trade barbs as US-Ukraine relations sour over the war with Russia

Zelenskyy said Trump was living in a Russian-made “disinformation space” and Trump called Zelenskyy “a dictator without elections” in comments that were sure to complicate efforts to end the war with Russia.

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Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy accused Donald Trump of living in a "Russian-made disinformation space" due to his administration's talks with Kremlin officials.

He urged Trump's team to be "more truthful" after Trump blamed Kyiv for the war and downplayed U.S. aid contributions.

Zelenskyy’s remarks came as U.S. envoy Keith Kellogg visited Kyiv amid shifting U.S. policy on Russia. Meanwhile, European leaders, feeling sidelined by U.S.-Russia talks, held emergency meetings.

Zelenskyy canceled a Saudi Arabia trip in protest.

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Trump is a russian marionette
- Not just Russia's puppet. He'll let literally anyone stick their hand up his ass if they pay him.
  
  Very handy that he has his own $Trump coin. Not a word of protest from conservatives.
  
  Conservatives are fundamentally against financial risks, and the crypto industry is financially risky. The crypto industry has been liberal/blue from the start and still is. Conservatives aren’t talking about it because the average crypto holder is not a republican. I can tell you’re the type to say things like ‘it’s the republicans fault’ that Biden approved $400 off armored teslas.
  
  The Crypto Industry is full of Libertarian idiots who are not Liberal/Blue in any way shape of form. Its just another scam tool for assholes to sucker idiots out of money and it's never ever going to amount to anything more than that.
  
  Funny how all the Crypto bros fell in line with Maga when they were so liberal and blue and so many of the Billionaire backers of the repulican party are also into crypto. Also funny how we now have our first Crypto tzar under republican Trump.
  Biden asked for companies to make a bid on EV armoured cars, Tesla was the only bidder and it was not concluded when Biden left office.
  
  Most people are cowards. Many live in survival mode. Wealth makes lives so much better that most people have a sell out price. It’s better to expect that others will sell out to wealth than old and altruistic idea that humans ‘shouldn’t’ have a sell out price. It’s personal morals, kind of like only fans. Some people think it’s really bad, some think it’s great. Overall, we allow it to happen because that’s human tendency.
  
  Idk what you're smoking to think conservatives are against financial risk, given conservative governments reliably fuck up the economy.
  
  They're against financial risk - to themselves.
  
  Yah no. You don’t have to be uneducated. Go search the ‘core principles of conservatism.’
  
  Go read the news.
  
  Point #5 right here: https://mikejohnson.house.gov/7-core-principles-of-conservatism/
  You could have found this information yourself.
  
  Conservatives don't follow that one, and repeatedly vote for people who cannot manage an economy at all.
  If I tell you one of my core principles is that all life is sacred, and then I go out hunting, start a couple wars and in general kill a ton of people and animals, me telling you about my core principles is just lying.
  Conservatives reliably cannot manage an economy, in fact the US has voted someone in who can't even run a fucking casino. Conservatives are not the side of good economics, no matter how often they lie saying they are.
  
  Buddy, decide if you want to push your propaganda or if you want to believe in reality. But stop playing this role of denying facts and history to serve your agenda. You could open your eyes and see a self proclaimed conservative president reducing the federal debt because conservatives are fiscally reserved, or you can choose to stay misinformed but you can’t rationalize this ‘conservatives are everything bad in the world so they are both over and under spenders’ mentality.
  
  They are not reducing the debt because they are fiscally conservative, that's the sound byte they play for idiot suckers. All they are doing is cutting shit until it fails so they can point to it about how much "government doesn't work" then they can just turn it into a privatized contract to price gouge the shit out of people for the same service they used to get much much more efficiently and cheaper than when it was part of the government.
  The real shinning example here is the Health Insurance industry, which, as shown by basically every country that isn't a crappy hell hole, runs much better when it's centralize and universally the same for everyone.
  But the US can't seem to grasp that and instead we get endlessly rising costs because profits profits profits! On top of needing it to be a mechanism to strip elderly people of as much wealth as possible to prevent the unwashed masses from ever actually gaining any sort of generational wealth and power.
  
  "Mike Johnson says this" doesn't make it reality. Or factual.
  As for factual:
  Republican presidents have added slightly more to the national debt per term than Democratic presidents, according to inflation-adjusted data from the U.S. Treasury Department and the Bureau of Labor Statistics dating back to 1913.
  https://www.investopedia.com/democrats-vs-republicans-who-had-more-national-debt-8738104
  
  No no see, they SAID they were more fiscally conservative so it's 100% true!
  /s
  
  I know you don’t genuinely want to know why conservatives are seen as fiscally conservative (it’s in the name), but I’ll explain. Republicans and conservatives are different things kind of like leftist and liberals are different things. Conservatives are seen as financially conservative they want to encourage family wealth, they want rely on family instead of the gov(can’t afford to lose the family fortune), and they tend towards ‘traditional’ (conservative) jobs/industries like oil and banking (instead of crypto and self driving/EVs, that are more risky for layoffs, closures, crashes and overwork). Republicans are seen as fiscally conservative because they want a smaller government and a smaller government doesn’t need to be funded so much so the taxes don’t need to be raised. The national debt is this black hole of doom that I thought we had all agreed we would just tolerate until the world exploded and I’m personally stunned to see any president try to reduce the national deficit.
  
  You got your link from a Republican's office.
  
  that is not true one bit, alot of republicans, conservative buy into crypto alot they take alot more risks. someone youtubers bought into cryptos during the SBF crash that someone peddled to them on the channel, and they all love trump, when it crashed they all lost a ton of money 1million+each, none of them were so-called liberals. they take alot more risks than you think. also studies have shown that conservatives fall for scams much easier than democrats. i think you are just pulling things out of your behind.
  
  You don’t think crypto was started in the most liberal city in America, San Francisco? You don’t think a majority of the crypto companies are owned by people from culturally liberal places from culturally liberal schools from elite families? I’m not trying to explain but, conservatives are into banking and insurance. Tech is history risky and a core part of conservatism is avoiding fiscal risk. I don’t know about the Trump coin. I quit Avalanche and went to the DOE in 2021 and avoided the space since.
  
  I mean, if you're gonna engage in disinformation then at least read the wikipedia page on whatever topic you are targetting so you can come up with something that's more believable. Disinfo is most effective when it is based on some true information taken out of context.
  
  At least prove a point.
  Oh, I think you're doing just fine on that front. (And let's not pretend like "proof" or "evidence" have any relevance when making claims that not only have no basis in reality, like "conservatives don't talk about crypto", but obviously seek to supplant it).
  But again, you'd be much more effective if you dress up facts rather than fiction. You also need to build up to the absurd, not start with it. You can't just convince people that reality is actually the opposite of what is perceived. You first need to shake up trust in consensus based reality and basic scientific knowledge, and only then start to gradually inteoduce the spectacle in a piecemeal fashion.
  
  Lol crypto did not "start" in San Francisco. And if that's so incredibly wrong, there is no point of even considering anything else you wrote.
  
  Yah it didn’t ‘start’ but again, all the major starting crypto companies are from SF, NY, western Europe; all liberal ‘progressive’ western political Mecca’s. Not from Lebanon, Kansas City, or religiously dominated countries. You again with my old user name.
  
  So who was buying the trump coin?
  
  Idk you can tell me? Probably young investors who don’t remember a time before crypto. Young ppl have historically been more ‘left liberal.’ Historically, crypto grew in Americas most liberal cities, hence why crypto is historically associated with democrats. Hence why red states like Montana creating crypto friendly legislation seem so ‘progressive.’ No one uses the word progressive to describe republicans.
  
  Most people in crypto are drawn to it the same way people are to gambling apps. Politics means shit and it's just full of people chasing after get rich quick scheme and fixating the price and trying to convince people to keep buying so they can offload their bag. Who the hell plays up crypto like it's some liberal stance when it's been mainstream for years.
  
  I do agree that politics don’t impact crypto in a huge amount but to call crypto republican is wildly false and ignores all of crypto history.
  
  Okay, so you don't understand that it was trump's supporters.
  The entirety of your comment history reads like a manifesto written by someone who has taken to many stims.
  
  lol ‘don’t understand.’ Our society Rob, so many people of their own personal authority that everyone is so desperate to grass an opportunity to feel better or higher than someone else. Here you are thinking that I can’t bother to assume the people who are going to financially support a political leader would be the supporters. That level of intelligence would be a mental disability, putting me into protected person’s category and you making fun of it would be you making fun of the disabled. I’m clearly not that mentally disabled so it’s just you grasping at your opportunity to feel better than someone else because you have to spend so much of your life being a cuck to society or the system. We all have to spend our lives being cucks. That’s why Luigi did it. M
  
  Sorry, but there is no data on that. I can assume but it’s not a fact so I’m not going to claim I know a fact that I don’t. Thanks for following me though
  
  Lmao! What goes on in your head?
  
  nothing goes in his head,
  
  Can’t even punctuate a sentence.
- Yep he's trying to fool everyone by stopping all aid WITH EXCEPTION ESPECIALLY FOR UKRAINE.
  Still sends them weapons.
  He unilaterally withdrew from the missile treaties with Russia (immensely aggressive and dangerous) and put missiles in Romania.
  It really makes sense doesn't it?
  
  Your account must be this old --> XX days to roll the Rollercoaster
  
  Look it's back with another banger!
  Did it take you a whole day to come up with this very original beauty?
  Jeez are you trying to kill me with cringe and boredom?
  
  You are so wierd
  
  Sure stalker
  Why do you keep talking to me?
  You can only get more ridiculed and humiliated.
  
  You are a little detached from reality
  
  Germ?
  
  Hello, I am watching your work with great interest. (well until you are inevitably banned)
  
  This is what our so free democratic leaders choose for us.
  We'll decide what 'news' to consume and what opinion you can have or express.
  And then you have the bots, opreatives or bootlickers encouraging banning to protect the regime echo chamber.
  It is surprisingly 'normal' here. Even if I got banned from horrible lemm.ee and some of my comments removed (while others made much worse about me and are still there since they The fediverse is still too small so unimportant.
  When it explodes like Reddit did it will get their own Jessica Ashoosh and consequent mass (ghost)banning, Eglin airforce base operatives and bots.
  Until then you people will have to deal with the truth and listen to opinions they don't like.
  They can always block me or go cry in a corner somewhere.
  As long as they're not extremely boring like most uneducated, unimaginative drones with their: Russian propaganda, Rubels, Xi bucks, 100+ social credits....
  I have to block those, there is no satisfaction in ridiculing them since they are too stupid to see how they humiliate themselves.
  The rest I enjoy tremendously, watching them seethe when they lose an argument and their little mask falls of revieling that behind the mask of imagined pseudo-moral superiority hides a little nasty fascist doing nothing more than gruntwork for the evil imperialist US regime. That is all. Death to America!!!
  I am out now (time for bloody Mary's)
  
  This is what our so free democratic leaders choose for us.
  Wait, lemmy has elections? We have leaders?
  Wait, lemmy is "news"?
  I have to block those, there is no satisfaction in ridiculing them since they are too stupid to see how they humiliate themselves. The rest I enjoy tremendously, watching them seethe when they lose an argument and their little mask falls of revieling that behind the mask of imagined pseudo-moral superiority hides a little nasty fascist doing nothing more than gruntwork for the evil imperialist US regime. That is all. Death to America!!!
  I mean that is quite the statement, I take offence about the part where you apparently win any argument.
  
  Stop. this platform hasn’t been around long enough for bots. You’re just being a bully for no reason but to be mean. It’s a waste of your time and energy.
  
  Almost as much of a waste of time as creating alt accounts solely to defend Russian geopolitics?
  Honestly, what is the point of pretending to be a leftist while defending the Russian oligarchs? I get critical of the American oligarchs, but what is the point of cheerleading an even more hierarchical and violent form of capitalist imperialism?
  
  Oh, sorry 18 hs account

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