2d ago

Linux is not ready

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It certainly sounds like wayland is just about ripe. Any DE recommendations for a lifelong XFCE enjoyer like myself?
- KDE. It's working very well with Wayland. I've been using both on my daily driver for a year now and it's come a long way since then. It was still a bit rough in the beginning but now I can't see myself going back. It's pretty polished.
  
  I've been using KDE Plasma with Wayland for a couple of months and it's been really good. The apps that don't support it properly open as an X11 window inside Wayland, which is perfectly fine. I'm not switching back to X11 either haha
  
  I'm not a Linux noob, but I've been out of the scene for a few years.
  Recently tried debian with KDE and Wayland on a modern PC with a 3060. Just a default install.
  My mouse could barely track across the screen, it was very choppy and stuttered like crazy.
  This was in the last 6 months. I got it fixed by switching to a different compositor, but I shouldn't have had to do that. Even then I found YouTube to be super laggy.
  It's just not ready.
  
  well it's again more about nvidia driver for wayland u need manually do some tweaks such as https://github.com/CachyOS/CachyOS-Settings/blob/master/usr/lib/modprobe.d/nvidia.conf
  
  I'm glad there are ways to get it working, and thank you for sharing it, but this doesn't qualify as "it just works, why are you idiots not switching from Windows when Linux just works".
  This is directly why a lot of people don't take the arguments that Linux is ready for the average user seriously.
  
  Yea like I said I'm not a total noob. I have built my own Linux From Scratch distro which is something I think most of the users on here would struggle with. All I'm saying is that it's not a totally smooth and hiccup free experience for normal people. I'm a grown man now and sometimes I just want shit to work cause I only have like an hour to game in the evening.
  I will try Linux again for my daily driver once Win10 support is gone but I will likely try something other than Debian as others have suggested. Something more gaming centric.
  
  I had the exact same experience with Debian. The thing is, Debian is so many versions behind, it's really no surprise that you thought it wasn't ready yet. Try a less "stable" distro, you'll be surprised.
  
  i am a Linux noob. i installed debian KDE wayland with an Nvidia card just like you.
  i experienced similar issues. i couldn't set my refresh rate above 60Hz, my screen was really dim and stuttering, and video playback was lagging. worst of all my Minecraft framerate was abysmal! (<20fps default settings)
  i read the dang wiki and got everything running smoothly in an afternoon
  it's ready as fuck
  
  Yes I'm also capable of reading the wiki but it did nothing to help me.
  My point stands that it's not "ready" for the average person. This is a Linux community of course people here know how to troubleshoot and get shit working.
  
  i read the dang wiki and got everything running smoothly in an afternoon
  that means it's not ready...
- Xfce next major release will have Wayland support so no need to even change!
  
  Wfce?
  
  Best news I've heard all year
- KDE or Gnome.
- I'm jumping on the kde train. The experience has been solid since plasma 6 and the Wayland jump last year, especially if you are already stuck in the Nvidia family.
- Cinamon should be supporting it soon

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