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Reminder: "US bad" is not a valid argument for "Russia good"
Yes, it's literally non sequitur. And a very popular propaganda move: [country A] is good because [country B] is worse. In fact, it usually is not even relatively good if there's a need for such 'argument'
*confused tankie noises
What about "fascists bad"? Remember when the US coup'ed the USSR, liberalized everything and russians had nothing to eat for ten years?
There is no distinction between putin ultranationalism and american jingoism. It's the people, in ukraine, in america, in russia vs the warmongeres who want to send the people to get butchered because it's good for the economy.
You are the later.
Nothing in your rant justifies Russia invading a sovereign country, murdering its citizens or deporting its children.
Arguing agaist a nonexistent "pro US" stance and using it to morally justify Russia is exactly the kind of nonsense I was pointing out.
Russia is an american puppet. How is that difficult to understand? The regime exists because the US coup'ed them and the whole war is a subsidy to lockheed martin. You want the war to stop? Revolt against the west.
It's not Trump being Putin's bitch. It's the exact opposite.
The one you have been arguing against seems like a bot or human waiting to annoy people for their satisfaction imo.
Yep :) I even haven't been arguing with them, just posted a meme that I thought relevant - and as soon as I saw my mailbox explode, I blocked them.
Thanks for the concern tho ;)
Serieux ouvre un livre d’histoire, le va-t-en guerre. Ou bien vas-y, toi, te faire charchuter en ukraine. C'est toujours facile de faire le chaud du fin fond de son pays comme un couard, d'accepter sagement le militarisme officiel alors que macron est tres clairement au lit avec les marchands d'arme.
Enfin, pour les non-humains comme toi. Raclure. Petite merde de frouze a la con. J'espere que tes gosses soit envoyes en ukraine pour se faire charcuter.
I mean that's the thing with bad-faith westoid. They will project their bad faith and call you a russian troll as soon as you go against their neocons eagles rethoric. Peace activists used to be called moscow agent as well.
westoid
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oh I'll tell you Communism wasn't peaceful. now shoo
Serieux ouvre un livre d'histoire, le va-t-en guerre.
AHAHAAHAH the idiotic mods deleted a picture of Yeltsin laughing with Clinton. Imagine doing that level of political censorship and still think you're the good guys. Scumbags.
The American playbook is: coup unfriendly regime, install friendly government, get trade agreements, use economic dominance to enrich the US via trade (with the occasional "set up US company to take control of natural resources"). The US was very open that they liked Putin because it seemed he would be liberalising Russia for a while, which furthered American corporate interests in Russia.
Putin turning ultranationalist has thrown a massive wrench into that plan, because now US corporations are being forced to exit Russia again. The damage that that is doing is greater than what Lockheed Martin gets for supplying weapons. It's also in part why Trump, beholden to US corporate interests, is so keen to end the war. Because that makes the US more money than keeping it going. And as it happens, that's also what Putin wants because he can pressure Trump to end the war in Russia's favour.
The US was very open that they liked Putin because it seemed he would be liberalising Russia for a while
They liked Gorbachoev and especially Yeltsin for being a CIA stooge privatsing Russia with western capital. Putin turned away from that pretty early on.
How old are you?
-1
The USSR did not fall because of a US coup. It collapsed because of its own internal contradictions.
Exactly. Saddam totally had weapons of mass destruction and there is no genocide in gaza. Wink wink
That's 1995.
So what? It's a nice picture. They looks so cute together xoxo
Right. I'm wasting my time, I see. Go troll somewhere else buddy.
You are. One have to be an imbecile not to see the US sponsored the switch from socialism to ultranationalism in the eastern block, which directly empowered the current fascist - not to mentionned they starved for ten years.
"Nothing to eat for 10 years" is the find out part of Russia fucking around.
They are no better than the Nazis. Exact same MO. Occupy countries through Imperalistic expansion, genocide the local population, and make simps like you eat up their propaganda.
I look forward to the upcoming Russian collapse. Would be nice if they stop spreading nuclear weapons to terrorists like North Korea and Iran first.
“Nothing to eat for 10 years” is the find out part of Russia fucking around.
Yeah whereas the holodomor was a deliberate genocide by the big bad russian. Push a jingoist and his hypocrisy will show lmao. They are also starving people in gaza, are they "finding out"?
Typical westoid. They really think they have the moral high ground lmao
Imagine actually thinking that anyone is to blame for this besides Russia. How about you stop being a coward with your garbage ideology and take ownership of your actions instead of blaming everyone else?
This is why you losers don't mean anything to the world. You commit crimes against humanity, you support the worst dictators in the world, and you subjugate people while pretending you're anything but murdering thieves.
Put your hands where your mind is, idiot.
https://www.rferl.org/a/ukraine-recruiting-foreign-fighters/31737766.html
But of course you will not. You want ukrainian to get butchered to the last one in the name of principle, but warmongerers are never the one bleeding. You don't give a shit about russia or ukraine, you just want your 401k to stay fit. Coward.
You are the warmonger for white washing russian attrocities.
Why is North Korea involved now?
You want Ukrainians to die and you don't care.
And here we see the usual gazlighting from the warmongerer. He think he protects ukrainian while saying the same thing as ursula van der leyen, who are in bed with the weapon industry and both have more corruption scandals than all the assads.
Meanwhile, ukrainians I know just hope they won't get drafted to the butchery. Go die in ukraine if you like it so much bitch they're hiring.
Anyone supporting war to the last Ukrainian because they want the opportunity to colonize them under NATO are the ones who want Ukrainians to die.
"Colonize them under NATO" LOL
Those poor oppresssd NATO countries with their voluntary admission to a defensive pact so garbage like you nazi Russians can't steal their land... again.
NATO simps cannot be considered democracies. They are colonies with managed electoral outcomes, and a devotion to sacrificing their people for US empire. It should not be permitted for anyone supporting literal Ukraine nazi apartheid ethnostate rulership to ever use the word nazi to describe anti-nazi opponents.
defensive pact
Obviously complete disinformation too, and certainly a paid troll to suggest something so absurd. If there is any hope to liberating people from demonism of US empire, it passes through traitors that try to claim "NATO is a purely defensive alliance" with a straight face.
Okay, go enjoy your democratic People's republic of Korea. That's your style of democracy