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A Hidden Variable in the Presidential Race: Fears of ‘Trump Forever’ | Undecided voters are concerned that if Donald Trump returns to the White House, he’ll never leave.

It's almost like Trump tried a coup to avoid leaving office the last time around.

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  • Seriously, if that's the only reason they'd vote for Biden instead? W. T. A. F.

    Still, if that makes him lose, okay then. But imagine being able to see his threat to democracy, but still feel that there is nothing else about Ronald McDonald that is problematic?

    • Might not be the only reason, but it's one of the reasons, and perhaps the most critical.

      Of the reasons, this general idea is the most existential threat to our democracy. Everything else, in theory, could be undone in a subsequent election/term. The supreme court appointments are the second most dire, as those can stand for who knows how long.

      • Oh, I agree it's very important and perhaps the critical difference between the Republican and Democratic Party, however, I just find it baffling that there are voters that recognize Ronald McDonald is flawed enough to end this country but then being kinda cagey about it. Like they are still okay with his party's terrible platform, but they just still want free and fair elections later...

        And yes, the Supreme Court is a major reason to come out to vote even for those that believe that the Democratic Party is not filled with unicorns and perfect rainbows, or that #BidenSoOld, or that Ronald McDonald and his merry band of white supremacist fascist maximalist accelerationists won't dismantle this country and plunge us into civil war and/or tyranny and genocide all because they have utterly insane ideas about how this country should work. Even if the worst weren't to happen, Spanky is likely going to be able to name new justices.

    • Have you ever canvassed for a politician before and talked about these issues with random voters, because I have, and people are fucking weird. People who will vote straight ticket Republican except for President and then they always vote democrat. I met a woman who felt abortion should be legal except for rape or incest because it would be "destroying evidence of a crime".

      Don't ever expect reason on sociological scales.

    • I don't agree with it but I can understand it somewhat. Some voters don't care about (or hate) the people currently being directly threatened, and only want to see a major economic collapse. A Republican Party dictatorship could drag on for decades and deny them that quick decisive ending.

      Accelerationists aren't just a problem for the left. Crazies all over think they just need a little chaos to get their chance.

      • Most (leftist) accelerationists I've seen are either people that are just trolling, elitist tools that are going to be able to flee the country and set up camp in the Riviera or the like, don't actually live in this country, or just armchair revolutionaries completely ignorant of history (1). Almost no one comes out on top - eventually the revolution calls for your blood, too. To paraphrase Tyson, all these revolutionaries have a plan until they and/or their families are up against the wall and get a bullet in their head.

        Actually most of the rightwing accelerationists I can think of meet the description in the first paragraph, come to think of it.

        (1) I seem to recall someone (Lenin?) calling this last type eggheads because they were typically fodder when it came to violence. I suspect none of the accelerationist theorists will be on the frontlines; all of them can go fuck themselves. Just because they seem to have personal problems they want to make an entire nation, possibly the world, suffer. It's just so childish.

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