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  • Nintendo and Sony, probably: "End your own hardware line and we can talk."

    • I always heard that consoles were sold at a loss and made up for with services. Sounds like the logical continuation of this saga is for MS to give up the hardware game so long as Gamepass generates more income due to being on virtually every platform.

    • I don't think the hardware is the issue. Having their service on PlayStation isn't going to sell anyone an XBox.

      I think third party games is the issue for Sony. They let EA do their own games in a subscription. They don't have the more expensive full version that includes third party games (though it could be their cut being EA not wanting to sell it instead).

      For Nintendo, regardless of ideology (where they probably object just to object), I think if they started work right now, we'd see their store being capable of gamepass in a decade or so.

      • Having their service on PlayStation isn’t going to sell anyone an XBox.

        Sure it would. If PlayStation got only fewer games and/or less optimized versions of those games, it would be nothing but promoting a closed competing platform that would never allow PlayStation Plus onto its platform.

        Sony is basically doing something similar with their Windows ports of PlayStation games. The ports of God of War and Horizon Zero Dawn were released under a year before the originally planned release dates of the sequels.

        • Yeah but the Sony games are not gimped in any way when they launch on Steam.

          I would probably bet MS would give up the major hardware game and shift to streaming sticks, basically.

          • Yeah but the Sony games are not gimped in any way when they launch on Steam.

            No, they are pretty great, actually. The PC port of Zero Dawn was in all likelihood in development before Covid and then the pandemic came and Sony realized that not only are the ports a great way to promote the franchise, they also are a relatively cheap way to earn some coin in a Covid-stricken world. I think it's absolutely worthwhile to Sony to make those games but we cannot expect simultaneous releases with PlayStation either. They are PlayStation promotion first.

            Side note: Despite some noticeable delay, Sony releases more and more current games on Windows than Microsoft does on PlayStation and Switch which only get remasters of 1990s games.

            • I have Horizon Zero Dawn and God of War and I fucking love God of War. It's so goddamn good and I love Christopher Judge as Kraatos.

              • Same here. We can enjoy those games and still add two and two together for why Sony released the ports.

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