The actual reason he hasn't faced consequences for it is that he's largely doing what the West wants, the secularization of SA. Calling it a theocracy just isn't quite right anymore, even if Islam as a whole tends to dispute the very idea of the separation of church and state.
I think that's one of the things Christians, or former Christians, don't want to admit in this little religious rivalry, that Muslims are every bit as varied in their take on fundamentalism as Christians.
Lol the Saudis used Israeli spy tech to spy on the family of the journalist they murdered, Jamal Khashoggi. They may well have used it on him as well, however his devices were never recovered so that was never proven. The sale of the tech was approved by the Israeli government, and the company that sold it claims they have full oversight over who their customers target.
That's completely beside the point you were making, but I really felt the need to mention it nonetheless. War is a tangled web, the only consistent thread is money.
The faiths are a little different, but Wahhabism isn't far removed from Sunni Islam. In any case, since 7 October the Saudis have been talking with Iran about working with them, instead of Israel.
Iran is Shia. They have a very violent history of conflict across the Middle East. Most recently across Iraq but Sunni vs Shia has been a common conflict duo since Islam split.
Did you even read the first two sentences of the wiki you linked?
[...] despite the differences between the two countriesāan Islamic absolute monarchy, and a secular constitutional republicāthe two countries have been allies ever since.
And then most of the rest of the article lists all the ways in which they're not really allies. It's not your typical allied relationship, they're pretty much allies in name only these days and very begrudgingly.
Basically China is building roads and rail across from China, through India and into the Middle East. Afghanistan also includes something about getting copper from there to send back to China, I imagine other countries will have resources China is after as well.
Not all debt can be satisfied with money. A debt that is being paid, whether in money, natural resources, or the blood sweat tears and labor of your countrymen is still a debt.
You're not really making sense. "A debt paid,... is still a debt that has to be paid"? If the debt is paid, it's already been paid.
Assuming Afghanistan owes China for the infrastructure, then that debt would be paid by giving them copper. Bought and paid for. So how are they saddled with debt? Where's the trap?
Obviously the deal will be a lot more complex, it might not be a great deal long term in some respects and I'm sure there'll be a measure of corruption (there almost always is, everywhere), but at the end of the day Afghanistan is getting infrastructure it couldn't build on its own and China is getting resources it otherwise wouldn't have access to.
Because the copper will be worth way more in the long run than the tech itās funding. Plus China is notorious for putting their own people in charge of mining operations who are abusive to locals.
Iām sure itāll be a little more complex, but it doesnāt have to be. If China can secure cheap raw materials it helps to ensure that they can make things cheaper than anyone else.
That link shows how Chinaās unskilled labor is now more expensive than a lot of their competitors. They need a new edge to stay relevant. The raw materials in Afghanistan is just one of many ways they are attempting to stay competitive.
Youāre right about my mis-type on the last thing Iām headed there to fix it. Thanks for pointing that out.
Yeah I'm sure China are doing it for their own advantage, but Afghanistan are still getting infrastructure they wouldn't have had - in particular the route is going through the mountains, where there are no easy roads currently. There are significant benefits for thw other countries involved in the scheme, too.
Are you ok? Do you smell toast or something? If you donāt even have a basic understanding of how life works, never mind, the CCP. I canāt help you.
Are you implying that China is doing it out of the goodness of their little hearts? Are you suggesting that the CCP signed off on a project like this because they are such nice guys?
I bet you believed your mom when she said you were special too. Get the fuck out of here. Hehehehehehehe
Normally, I wouldnāt do this, but Iāve had some time to sleep and I think I may have misinterpreted something you typed. First off though there are a few things that I follow pretty close. Shitty religious stuff, and shitty CCP practices are probably my top things. Iām definitely not saying Iām an expert but I find those things equally interesting and infuriating.
Anyway, last night you called me out for the way I worded my first comment. It was perfectly understandable in its original form. Though I do admit I could have worded it better. So, I fixed it.
But before that comment you had shown a lack of understanding of how basic transactions work. Also, you made it sound like China was the one really helping Afghanistan and China was receiving little in the way of payment for this infrastructure. Now I wonāt get into China debt traps because thatās a whole thing unto itself. But I first learned about how China treats African mine workers where similar deals have been made on gore websites. Granted itās not as bad as what the Belgians did, but they arenāt kind.
Which brings me to what I think I probably misinterpreted. Because of acting like you donāt know how basic transactions work. I just assumed your statement that started with āYeah, Iām sureā¦ā was sarcastic. Like you were actually saying that you believed the CCP was just doing it to be cool. Which is ridiculous.
Anyway, maybe in the future donāt start off a conversation by critiquing someoneās grammar? Ummm wordage? I donāt know, the proper word escapes me at the moment. But, I feel like we could have had a very constructive conversation.
Also, I should work on my own pettiness. Like, if you insult me by calling me out on something unrelated to the topic. Even if the topic wasnāt my thing. For the next several hours it will be. So, I should also work on that.