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  • When I was in I think 2nd grade I gave a presentation on the Civil War while wearing a costume of a confederate soldier.

    I was taught that factory workers in the north had it worse than slaves, that the Civil War War Between the States was about states' rights, that Confederate generals were noble and honorable while Union ones were incompetent drunks who relied on essentially human wave tactics and burning down cities to win. Gone With the Wind was presented to me as an accurate and unbiased depiction of history.

    Growing up I definitely had a couple awkward dinner conversations with certain "history buff" relatives where I was like, "Well sure, but still, I mean, obviously we can all agree the South was wrong, right?" and suddenly people start exchanging looks kind-vladimir-ilyich

    I actually got a similar reaction once for saying the Crusades were bad, Catholics are fucking wild I tell you.

    • I was taught that factory workers in the north had it worse than slaves

      In Marx's "Theories of Surplus Value" which he never published while he was alive, but was instead compiled from his notes by Kautsky, and then later Riazanov, he called out 1700s reactionary anti-capitalists like Linguet who made these kinds of arguments.

      Linguet however is not a socialist. His polemics against the bourgeois-liberal ideals of the Enlighteners, his contemporaries, against the dominion of the bourgeoisie that was then beginning, are given—half-seriously, half-ironically—a reactionary appearance. He defends [...] slavery against wage-labour.

      (Linguet was guillotined by the Jacobins lol)

    • I actually got a similar reaction once for saying the Crusades were bad, Catholics are fucking wild I tell you.

      Papists still getting off from the sack of Constantinople

    • I actually got a similar reaction once for saying the Crusades were bad, Catholics are fucking wild I tell you.

      My convert Catholic dad once told me that all the crusades were "self-defence" against Islam. I guess there must have been a really big threat of an islamic invasion of Europe from the Baltics.

      • i'm pretty sure at least one of those crusades resulted in christian armies sieging/looting/pillaging/committing atrocities in christian majority cities on their long march to Jerusalem, with most of them starving or dying of dyssentery or deserting along the way. Most effective form of self defense I've ever seen. And even when they made it to Jerusalem, surprise surprise, turns out there was a lot of christians and jews coexisting with muslims and they all got treated as muslims by the invading armies.

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