2d ago

AOC Seen as ‘Face’ of Democratic Party — and It’s Not Even Close: New Poll

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She's not the face of the Democratic Party
She's the face of a completely new and different party that has nothing to do with old Democrats.
To me, I've been viewing the US as being governed under a one party state for a while ... the Republicans and the Democrats form two halves of the same organization.
The US doesn't need a third party
They need to form a new second opposition party because the old one morphed into the monstrous thing we have today.
- The US needs a third, a fourth, a fifth and several more parties as viable alternatives.
  They to drop any weird FPTP systems, this will allow new parties to come into play.
  This would also end the ridiculous gerrymandering shit
  
  Omg, I love you. I've been screaming this since CGPGrey's videos about voting and alternatives to what we have. Getting that is gonna require all existing party members to be cool with a complete loss of power and an increase in the amount of work the have to do to keep their power or get elected.
  It'll take the states. However, there are already states trying to ban alternative voting methods.
  
  Haha, thank you for your kind words!
  As a Swede, the US election system has always seemed so backwards, even the fact that you have to register to vote is completely foreign to me.
  
  And there's no chance it can get one while $ is in American politics.
  
  Yeah, no.
  If no party can get to 270 electoral votes, the president is picked by the House of Representatives.
  That means congress would need be flippped into third party majority first.
  Splitting the left off only benefits the far right. Anyone who thinks otherwise is stuck in an echo chamber.
  
  This is why stoy said the First Past the Post system needs to be dropped.
  
  Which would require a constitutional amendment, meaning it’s a pipe dream.
  
  Could you explain how Alaska or Maine managed to have a Ranked-Choice Voting system?
- One of the UK’s two parties has died and the other is in the process of killing itself. Two party duopolies can disintegrate, even under FPTP, we just have to hope that Left parties emerge, not just rebranded far-right ones.
- The Democratic Party is just a vessel. It used to be the right wing (relative). Now it's the left wing (relative). Bernie and AOC don't really fit in with the Dems, but they can. Same with Manchin.
  There was a time where I thought a Musk type could rally many behind a weird Libertarian version of the DNC or RNC and shift the landscape. But he just went hard fascist as soon as he publicly aligned with the right.
- Any time someone can't tell the difference between centrists and fascists, I just have to assume that their stance is more about arguing than it is about a sincerely held ideology.
- Fuck that.
  Centrists/Republcian Lites don't deserve to the party.
  They are free to fight republicans over control of that shitshow.
- Or put another way, it's time for the non-fascist party to realign ideologically as part of the Seventh Party Era
- Pretty much, yeah.
  Taking over the Democratic Party vs starting a new party is kinda like addressing climate change on Earth vs terraforming Mars.
  The former sounds painful and bureaucratic while the latter sounds exciting and innovative.
  But if you can’t fix the party or planet you’ve got, which has like 80% of the hard work done already, what hope do you have of doing a new thing from scratch?
  
  One of the criticisms against the Democratic Party is that they aren't particularly democratic. Party insiders and the wealthy hold far more power and practically pick the nominees.
  Rather than compare them to the planet from which we were birthed, I would compare them to a shitty boyfriend we're afraid to dump.

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