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It was a "alternatives to American apps/sites" on Reddit that got me here
- Just got so sick of reddits smarminess. It’s also just astroturfed corporate BS at this point anyway.
  I’ve been boycotting Amazon for over a year (and quite frankly won’t ever stop), won’t shop at Target and won’t visit super corporatized social media.
  Reddit has proven time and time again they’re just a whipping boy for corporate interests.
  
  Are you me from the future? This is literally my mindset right now. Just started boycotting Amazon, Target, etc.
  
  Yeah I knew it was bad but this last round of suppression was the final straw.
- just a heads up, the instance you're on is pretty controversial.
  
  I thought the whole point of Lemmy was that it didn't matter what instance you joined. Can I move my account, or do I need to make a new one on a new instance?
  
  You have to make a new one.
  I've been on .ml for half a year and it's a good one. Not many defederations, so I can pick what instances i want to see and not have some faceless admin pick for me.
  If you really struggle with certain users who are passionate about certain topics, just block them. This is true for any instance. Don't forget to block me to. Thanks.
  
  The reason it doesn't matter is because they all interoperate, unless one of them is a problem and needs to be cut off. Yours isn't the worse but some people do have a negative opinion of it. If anyone decides to de-federate you won't be able to see posts from there but this probably doesn't matter a whole lot unless the instance you are on is a total pariah
  
  So, the no matter what instance thing isn't really true. Moderation is different per instance, mods can remove comments locally. Account migration is planned, but not there yet.
  
  Well it doesn't, but that instance has a... reputation... So some people might have that entire instance blocked. You'd have to create a new account elsewhere to move over
  
  Every instance has a reputation. A lot of .ml posters think that .world posters are libs and crypto fascists(if they distinguish between the two). And some folks accuse feddit.nl users of being... Well... Dutch.
  
  And some folks accuse feddit.nl users of being... Well... Dutch.
  I suppose they're not wrong. But I hope I'm not blocked by some people for it
  
  Likely only Austin Powers father.
  
  Does shitjustworks have a rep? So far so chill, I don't think I've heard any controversy about this one.
  
  Every instance has a "rep," sh.itjust.works is generally seen as right-wing.
  
  Cowbee is a known Tankie, everything to them is right-wing, they think I'm right-wing LMAOOOOO
  SJW is not seen as right-wing outside the Tankie Triad, for an actual right-wing instance see hilariouschaos.com
  
  you literally are a mod of a conservative community!
  
  Check the side bar, it's a satire conservative community lol
  I actually became a mod of it and turned it into a satire of the conservatives comm because the actual few conservatives here abandoned it, that's the only reason why you guys on Blahaj can even see it because Ada had it blocked on your instance for awhile lmao
  
  using "jokes" to push conservatism is a common tactic of crypto-fascists as is warmongering shitposts like noncredibledefense or spreading 4chan greentexts, both of which are the top communities on SJW (intentionally chosen by the way) which combined with the transphobic admins creates a alt-right vibe on sh.itjust.works
  
  I'm a Marxist-Leninist, sure, whatever you want to call that. SJW is generally seen as right-wing for hosting some of the most pro-US and anti-communist communities, and having an admin that thinks China and Russia are pushing "gender politics" to radicalize western youths against the US. This is MAGA-tier conspiracy theory nonsense and undermines the real struggles faced by transgender people in order to push their own political agenda.
  You yourself essentially just stir up drama and repost content from Lemmy.ml, which is kinda silly. Same with trying to make "Tankie Triad" a thing, Marxists occupy far too much of your time for someone who presumably isn't a Marxist.
  
  Being a Tankie doesn't mean just being a communist, being a tankie is defined as "authoritarian communists, especially those who support acts of repression by such regimes, their allies, or deny the occurrence of the events thereof. "
  You guys censor anybody who speaks against Russia/NK/or the CCP and it's well documented. People catch 14 day bans for merely saying that Drump and NK dictators are "dumb" or saying "Fuck Russia" on a meme about Russia being pushed away from getting help from Trump by the French (iirc) PM (which also got removed) and it's also hilarious your bring up the SJW admin when one of your own did the exact same thing.
  SJW isn't right-wing, that's just what you say about everyone whose explicitly not a tankie
  I could post ever more links about the .ml censorship problem but I think made my point
  !meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works if you want to see more evidence everyone
  lemmy.world/c/meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works for those on .ml since .ml doesn't want you to see it!
  
  “Tankie” is a caricature. The idea of a tankie is the ideal vision of a McCarthyian Communist. In reality, the overwhelming majority of people labeled as such don’t actually fit that label, it’s more of a way to cast an image of someone’s positions based on, say, support for AES countries, and twist that into the evil Commie Pinko that haunts the dreams of 1960s children in the US.
  Either way, Lemmy.ml has a higher standard when it comes to racism, ableism, homophobia, and other forms of chauvanism. Many people are critical of Russia, the DPRK, CPC, etc yet don't get removed because they don't break those rules. Moreover, I am not a representative of Lemmy.ml, I am no fan of Nutomic and have stated that before, transohobia is unacceptable no matter who does it.
  As for MwoG, I have seen it, and I don't really care for an anti-communist drama community polulated by stalkers, doxxers, and drama-baiters that take things out of context or fully stand by bigotry unironically (that's where the transphobia from the SJW admin came from, you'll notice).
  
  Lol nahhh .ml says we're all CIA shills and .world is a CIA front full of bots! Lmao
  
  I haven't heard that one before, hallucinating again?
  You do seem more obsessed with people to your left than anyone to your right, not really beating the crypto fascist allegations
  
  I could have sworn I had a screenshot of it, but I'm still looking. But please enjoy this other one I grabbed of .world and .ee users being called bots in the meantime
  
  jeopardy music
  
  I do apologize for the inconvenience, but for now I will have to leave you on a cliffhanger. After spending another 10 minutes looking I gave up, it's out there though, I saw it with my own eyeballs.
  Maybe I'll write something that can do a better lemmy search or send my screenshots through OCR, but my project list atm is rather....long and has other more important things on it, ¯_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯ so who knows lmao
  
  people peer pressuring over instances can be disregarded, they're almost always shit-stirring
  
  Feudposting is cringe
  
  It's seriously getting old at this point. I've noticed there's been an uptick in hostility towards lemmy.ml over the past year. I can only assume it's related to the reddit migration. Unfortunately I only forsee it getting worse as more people migrate over.
  
  Theres a community about ml drama "meanwhileongrad" thats blocked from ml so youd never see it
  
  At a certain point it becomes harassment and should be moderated accordingly. Something that we're going to need to do as we grow in order to be a functional social spaces that harassment needs to be something you get banned for because a lot of the negative experience people have on the corporate crap is because of widespread normalized harassment. If an instance isn't so bad it gets defederated users probably shouldn't be given shit for merely using it
  
  The world admins allow this to continue, which I see as tacit endorsement for it.
  
  Have you considered that people just generally don't like supporting the authoritarianism that plagues China, Russia and NK
  It's the authoritarian part of being a Tankie that a lot of us hate
  
  I got permabanned from politics on shitjustworks for calling out the mod for being a hypocrite, so 14 days ain't so bad in comparison. Gonna go see what rule 1 over there is tho.
  
  LPT: Maybe don't start comments with "Go fuck yourself", people might take you more seriously or be more receptive.
  🤷
  
  Look at the preceding conversation, instead of cherry picking a comment maybe 🤷‍♂️ dude was already handing out temp bans in the thread for anyone that disagreed with him stating they're trolls, then he's the one trolling. Got called out, couldn't handle it.
  
  There's a difference between support and pointing out blatant US propaganda. Like I said above, many people across the fediverse don't get the nuance of being critical of US narratives does not equal supporting the regimes that are on the recieving end of that propaganda. If you really spent any amount of time on .ml you'd see there is plenty of criticism of Russia/China, just not to the extent where everyone unquestioningly takes any criticism by US sources at face value.
  
  Did you open the link at all? That user literally just said that Drump would be the dumbest president ever, even dumber than NK dictators and caught a 14 day ban from /c/memes for it. That is not ban worthy whatsoever, but on .ml it is for the sole reason of it speaks ill of NK.
  There's plenty more on !meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works but ironically .ml blocks you from seeing it, so you'll need to use this roundabout link instead http://lemmy.world/c/meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works
  
  Some instances just have higher standards than you and don't tolerate ableist insults
  
  Lol yea calling Drump and dictators dumb is definitely abelist/s LMAO
  
  yes, we get it, you're extremely edgy
  
  Yeah it doesn't matter - don't listen to drama fiends. .ml is fine. Lots of people decry it as being a tankie instance. The whole point of federation is you aren't limited to the content on your instance - just by which instances yours is federated with.
  If people or your instance bother you, make another account. Otherwise, just ignore the haters
  
  Check out !meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works or actually because you're on .ml, they block that comm instance wide
  So you'll need to see it through another instance, like so lemmy.world/c/meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works
  You get banned for dissent against Russia or China or even NK on .ml comms
  
  very good way to put it
  
  Is lemm.ee chill or should I be making a new account?
  
  Oh yeah, lemm.ee is great.
  
  Controversial? How come? I’m new to the Fediverse so I’d love to learn as much as I can. 🙂
  
  Lemmy.ml is very pro Russia/pro communism
  
  Oh that sucks. Thanks for letting me know!
  
  I explained a bit here: https://lemm.ee/post/58018253/18825295
  But I'll go into more detail : )
  lemmy.ml is the instance run by the lemmy developers, who are tankies. Tankies are people who support authoritarian regeims such as the soviet union, or north korea.
  As such, they sometimes remove anti-china or pro-ukraine posts/comments.
  They also sometimes bridgade threads.
  As an example, check !meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works
  
  Why?
  
  It has some censorship problems, the devs (who run the instance) are tankies, and pro-russia/china
  
  Alright where next? I’m not invested in this space
  
  lemm.ee, the instance you are on, is fine. In fact, the admins are great people.
  
  I’m so sorry but you have to spell this out to me
  What is the difference between lemmy and lem.ee? And I suppose I should ask “where am I?”
  Is this like people individually hosting their own reddits?
  
  You can browse by "local" and "all" with the tab at the top of the page. Local is posts from just your instance, all is everything not defederated with your instance.
  That's why I suggest people go to a instance with as few deferations as possible. You can block instances, communities, and users. You know what you want to see. You don't need a admin to tell you what you want to see.
  I'm glad instances with tons of defederations exist for those who want that, but that's not for me.
  
  So, lemm.ee is a lemmy instance, its like its own mini-reddit. lemmy.world is another instance. You can follow communities accross instances though.
  
  Its ppl copying the content on each others servers and all hosting frontends/backends that serve the same content. The site is where your content is hosted, like if you upload a pic its to that instance and based on their upload rules for size. I think lemm.ee has like a 50mb limit while some have much higher limits. All of your posts/comments originate from your site and then get coppied to any site that hasnt blocked it and has communicated with it before. (Me subscribing to a lemmy.world community from my instance would count as communicating so they would federate and posts from that community and other communiteis on that instance would show up on mine in the future)
  Like if you hosted a site that was an exact clone of mine that copied or linked content over everytime it was posted to match the other.
  
  You can read this, hopefully it will help: https://lemm.ee/post/54947321/18643464
- Don't worry about the other posters trying to dissuade you from lemmy.ml. It's a very chill instance. It gets flack because it is run by and has a majority leftist base, but that shouldn't be an issue if you consider yourself a progressive. The "tankie" slurs are frankly b.s. and disingenuous. I wouldn't call the sub "pro-Russia/China" by any means, the users are anti-imperialist and realistic in the nature of US propaganda depicting other states as bogeymen. Just because you question the mainstream US-centric narrative doesn't mean you're shilling for China/Russia etc. There's a lot of liberals and centrists, that despite their progressive sentiments they may hold, are still very beholden to the narrative of American exceptionalism in a lot of ways.
  
  Guessing it's coming from shitjustworks people. Politics mod over there doesn't like anyone pointing out the Dems weak ass "resistance" even if you are lauding another Dem(Rep Green) at the same time lol.
  
  Wherever it stems from it's getting annoying to deal with the influx of "enlightened centrists" that have the idea that anyone left of Biden/Harris is a secret Russian/Chinese disinfo agent :/

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