NY introduces bill to "require background checks for 3D printers capable of creating firearms"

www.nysenate.gov NY State Assembly Bill 2025-A2228

Requires a criminal history background check for the purchase of a three-dimensional printer capable of creating firearms; prohibits sale to a person who would be disqualified on the basis of criminal history from being granted a license to possess a firearm.

Hopefully won't pass

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There is currently a bill in the NY State Assembly to require background checks for the purchase of 3D printers

www.nysenate.gov /legislation/bills/2025/A2228

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I'm going to take a wild guess and say this bill doesn't do the same for CNC machines despite those being literally how you make actual guns. Fucking NY liberals.
- Don't take my mill from me! :'(
- A Shapeoko is only a few hundred dollars more than a Bambu X1C and it makes functional weapons that don't jam. This does nothing to prevent people making guns in garages.
  
  Shapeoko
  I can't believe you've gone and mentioned something cool and expensive for me to hyperfixate on as a new hobby.
  
  Never even heard of that now I'm going to look it up and never be able to afford one but want it anyway 🥰
  
  That router ain’t cutting steel for those of you thinking it might. But if a gun can be 3d printed it can be routed from plastic too. I wouldn’t wanna shoot any gun made of plastic anyway though
  
  You use gun parts for the actual shooty bits, the plastic is everything else (which is usually plastic these days anyway)
  
  I've cut steel on a shaepoko before, it's just a tad bit slow.
- Gun control policies being made by people who have never shot a gun, classic liberalism
- The Bill is 387 words long. It provides a definition:
  "THREE-DIMENSIONAL PRINTER" MEANS A COMPUTER OR COMPUTER-DRIVEN MACHINE OR DEVICE CAPABLE OF PRODUCING A THREE-DIMENSIONAL OBJECT FROM A DIGITAL MODEL.
  A random google search provides the following definition:
  Computer numerical control (CNC) is a manufacturing method that automates the control, movement and precision of machine tools through the use of preprogrammed computer software, which is embedded inside the tools.
  I agree the bill is stupid. It’s equally stupid to make this a conservative vs liberal issue. This is a ruling class vs subservient class issue.
  Stop playing into artificial distinctions designed to fracture the power of the many. Be better.
  
  I'm a communist. This bill is pushed by liberals, specifically the Democrat-flavored liberals rather than the Republican-flavored liberals. Both parties are capitalist and fall under the umbrella of liberalism as it is classically defined, regardless of whatever that term might mean in American discourse.
  
  Thanks for clarifying. Considering it is a NY state bill, I assume you can understand my confusion.
  
  It’s equally stupid to make this a conservative vs liberal issue
  He isn't. We're communists here.
  
  My point exactly. This is a bill promoted by the capital class (that can get access to weapons easily) designed to prevent labor from having the means of producing their own means of self defense.
  The last line of his comment is
  Fucking NY Liberals
  
  It is NY liberals pushing this bill though. It is specifically an American NY liberal bill.
  Just because he is specifying the particular sect of capital class ideology doesn't mean he is incorrect, nor that he is specifically positing a 'liberal vs. conservative' dichotomy. You are reading that into the statement for some reason, which is outside my business.
  
  It’s hardly being pushed through. It’s currently in an assembly committee. You are reading liberals pushing a bill that will likely not even make it to the floor into the current state of the bill for some reason, which is outside my business.
  
  Do you just make a habit of reading incorrect context into things that aren't there?
  It is legislation being introduced and supported (colloquially 'pushed') by NY liberals, I never implied it was being shoved through committee or forced through the legislature.
  Look, not to be pedantic, but you've already moved the goalposts once, care for a second time?
  
  When did I move goal posts? Honest question.
  It’s a NY state bill on an issue related to firearms. In that context it is not strange to read the word liberal on the same context.
  Now that I understand you mean liberal v communist it is more clear. Although I don’t understand the significance of a NY liberal vs any other state.
  
  Ah. My bad. I was being overly snippy.
  'Moving the goalposts' is when someone, during a conversation, rather than admitting they were incorrect about something, changes the subject to be about some other matter, as if that was the point of the discussion. Basically, it's something people do to be annoying.
  I suppose the only way to assume the 'liberal vs. conservative' context is to read into it, and assume the media consensus American political context applies to it, but I personally don't do that, since we are far away from media consensus around here, I just try to read people as they say. Which you have now been doing so, awesome!
  I'm not sure why they specified 'NY' either, but I don't think it particularly matters other than that the bill is clearly some sort of attempt to curry favor with those who were opposed to the Mangione killing.
  Anyways. Cheers, comrade.
  
  It took me a bit to get there but I finally did. I was genuinely confused. I appreciate the exchange and you sticking with it until I caught up
  
  Yeah, exactly. Siding with capital against the workers is libs doing lib shit. Nothing to do with the blue-versus-red team sport of US bourgeois electoral politics.
  
  Never said blue-red. Said conservative-liberal. The point I made is that those are all arbitrary distinctions designed to turn worker on worker.
  
  Yeah, you're the one invoking that false dichotomy in response to "Fucking NY liberals" — especially when the liberals in question are the lawmakers here, not workers. Liberalism is a real ideology, and one that's in opposition with and derided by communists. Complaining about liberals making liberal policy decisions isn't anti-worker in any way.
  
  Please list the liberals, other than the sponsor, that are in support of the bill.
  Edit: assuming that you mean liberal v communist as raised in the other posts, my confusion came from the qualifier “NY.” Aren’t most US politicians liberals in this context? What is it about the NY specific variant that matters in the context of the bill?
  
  I mean, I'm not clairvoyant, you'll get your list when they discuss and vote on the bill. Given the state of the NY political apparatus, probably a lot of them. Why are you trying to defend liberals as a category? They're anti-worker.
  Edit for your edit: The NY context is because this is a NY bill. Lately NY liberals have been extra clownish in response to The Adjuster capping the UHC CEO in NYC, including talking about setting up a help line for scared billionaires. This bill is also reaction to The Adjustment of Brian Thompson.
  
  I am not defending liberals. I was taking issue with what I thought was a liberal-conservative comment. In the context of a law regulating firearms in the USA that is an easy mistake to make.
  With that clarification the prior comment by someone of “we are all communists here” and my response demonstrates my mistake.
  
  Lol no worries. The "someone" was me, that's my first post in this whole comment chain.
  
  Most communists don't bother making a distinction between Liberals and conservative Liberals. They're just libs.
  
  Technically, they are all conservative liberals (in the legislature) at this point. There was a point in time when there were radical liberals who wouldn't be opposed to a little outside the law tomfoolery.

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