Tankies turn giddy over the radicalisation of a child. Already, the child is denying genocide, praising stalin, racist and celebrating violence
Tankies turn giddy over the radicalisation of a child. Already, the child is denying genocide, praising stalin, racist and celebrating violence
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Many are supporting the duopoly's funding of genocide of the Palestinian people due to Zionism's hold on our government and politicians, per AIPAC.
As we learn and grow, exposing ourselves to diverse ideas that we do not agree with, our world view changes as well, unless we construct our own echo chambers by self-censoring ourselves.
not everything is related to another conflict in the middle east dude, it wasn't even mentioned here. lol
also careful. "Zionism’s hold on our government and politicians, per AIPAC." is the same as alt-rights "Jews control the government" -- Not allowed per instance rules
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I disagree.
Again:
Zionism =/= Judaism
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They're not a nazi
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Doesn't matter, unfortunately.
Per instance rules, no calling people names.
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I mean, I won't argue on the Israel-destruction thing, but I don't think being secular makes you a nazi.
I'm anti-Zionist, anti-caliphate, anti-Christendom, you know, secular.
Lmao, the Nazis themselves were Zionists. They wanted the Jews out of their country and saw zionism as a compelling way to get them out.
I'm not even particularly keen on relying on that opportunistic relationship to group zionism and nazism together, but it would be quite ridiculous to suggest anti-zionism is Nazi ideology.
Except at the same time Nazi Germany was also courting Amin al-Husseini (who was later the leader of Mandatory Palestine) and instructing the arab world to slaughter their Jews.
It's pretty clear that Nazi Germany wanted them in one place to make the extermination easier; hence why they gathered all the Jews they could find.
Saying that Nazi Germany supported Zionism is a gross misunderstanding of Nazi Germany and Jews in WW2. It makes it sound like Nazi Germany was a-okay with Jews so long as they stuck to their own place, which is blatantly false and highly suspect to even be arguing.
It also explains why caliphates in the Middle East are rife with Nazi German rhetoric and why there are so much Nazi-era books and reading material inside Gaza.
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Actually yea, kinda. Modern neo-nazis think that Israel will eventually be consumed in a regional war and destroyed, which might not actually be that farfetched. It's also why you'll hear a lot of right-wing Americans say that we should Nuke Iran - they want there to be a nuclear exchange and for Israel to be destroyed, along with much of the Middle East.
It’s pretty clear that Nazi Germany wanted them in one place to make the extermination easier
Yes, that was my point. It wasn't that they were 'a-okay with Jews', it was that supporting Zionism served their interests in driving Jews out of Europe. Especially now, when Nazi Germany is still very much a part of our generational memory, Nazis lean on those apparent contradictions to deflect negative attention and re-frame their movement for the modern age.
You'll notice a lot of neo-nazis support Zionism (particularly American neo-nazis), and it's for a couple reasons:
- vocally supporting Israel serves as evidence that they aren't anti-semetic (how could they be, they support Israel!)
- it provides a convenient rhetorical opportunity to say that Jews should 'just go be a part of their own country' and stay out of theirs
- It serves as a positive example of building an anti-immigrant national religious ethnostate. The primary goal of Nazis is to expel foreigners and create their own, and being able to point to Israel as a widely-accepted example is compelling (especially to people who think of Nazism and Zionism as mutually exclusive)
- American Neo-nazis have a large overlap with American evangelism, who believe that a battle over Israel will precede the end of time and usher in heaven on earth. To an alarming portion of the American right-wing, support for Israel is largely based on this eschatology and they believe they will eventually be destroyed, and the survivors will dispel and convert to Christianity (because their 'anti-christ' lead them to slaughter)
That isn't to say that Zionism is a nazi ideology, just that Zionism just happens to align with their interests at the moment (and in the 1930-40's). I largely think this misconception of Zionism's relationship to Nazism stems from a flawed world-view that centers around ideological binaries, instead of a complicated dialectic of various interests. "Something can't be x, it has qualities of y" is just such a pedantic misdirect it's hard not to laugh at it.
Except you are arguing that modern zionism today is the zionism that Nazi Germany envisioned, which it is not.
You’ll notice a lot of neo-nazis support Zionism (particularly American neo-nazis), and it’s for a couple reasons:
This is blatantly, horrendously wrong. As you know, I regularly check out what extremists say and do (of course I keep my personas different to avoid doxxing), and I can tell you, right now, in full confidence, that Neo-Nazis of today are all very much pro-Palestine. Neo-Nazis very much support Islamic Extremism as it shares all of their views; the only difference is the racial supremacy.
You too can view them on their websites, /pol/ is the most accessible. Your points are also wrong.
Consider this an immediate warning. It's apologia to Neo-Nazis, Revisionism of Neo-Nazis, and at this point, it's also Off-topic.
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Erm,.... back at ya?
I am closer to a Red than a Nazi.
Further clarification: Red being a communist.
Thanks for the reminder of this song:
Oi! band formed after a hard drinking afternoon in 1997. At that time there were only three members. It was Jerome Reuter ROME, on drums and vocals, Tom Luciani on guitar and Muck on bass. After playing gigs here and there in some pubs of Luxembourg, a first little recording was released, a demo-tape called Cider Lane 77, of which a limited amount of copies were sold. After Muck left the band in 1999, the line-up had to be changed.
The lyrics to The Skinflicks's song What I Am are a defiant statement of identity in the face of societal pressures to conform. The song emphasizes the importance of self-expression and the rejection of political ideologies that seek to control or manipulate individuals. The skinhead identity, according to the song, is about more than just fashion choices - it represents a rejection of both far-right and far-left political beliefs in favor of a distinct cultural identity.^[[1] https://sonichits.com/video/The_Skinflicks/What_I_Am]
Song: What I Am - The Skinflicks^[[2] https://youtu.be/5xSP0vBZAd0]
Lyrics^[[3] https://www.songlyrics.com/the-skinflicks/what-i-am-lyrics/]
Cuz I'm not a nazi, I'm not a red
I've had enough of your politics
I'm not a nazi, I'm not a red
For all I am is a ... Skinhead!
That's what I am, it's all I wanna be
That's what I am, it's all I wanna be
That's what I am, it's all I wanna be
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Edit: format and added more sentences
Redfash
TIL.
I disagree with your labels again; you seem to just be using such labels so you can continue to ignore and dismiss anyone that does not think like you want them to.
Its funny how the self proclaimed communists are far right
I disagree; foreign policy has a lot to do with our country and what happens in other countries as well.
Zionism =/= Judaism
Many that are for censorship try to make it seem like it is, so continued support of genocide can continue, but we must not fall for their talking points. to make it seem like it is, so continued support of genocide can continue, but we must not fall for their talking points.
So you just go around randomly bring this up? It might be better to find a different hobby.
This is literally all that Jimmy does. Linkerbaan as well. Bitching and arguing with people about the war in Gaza is their entire personality and life. Must be a very miserable life.
Yeah. I find most people who are obsessed over the conflict as just bored people
And they develop Lemmy...
Yeah I can't say they are all that agreeable but I have respect for the development aspect
who are you referring to with this? afaik neither Linkerbaan nor jimmydoreisalefty are involved in development
Genocide was brought up.
A current genocide is ongoing with our funding and military help (United States).
It might be a bit of a tangent, but I thought it would fit in that it shows that many people support and are against the Palestinian genocide as well.
Do you support a two-state solution? If the answer is yes, then congratulations, you are inherently a zionist. If your answer is no, then I hope you're not advocating for violence, as that is disallowed.
Even Israel is against a two-state solution and a one-state solution.
Israel's goal has always been to remove all natives from Palestinian land.
This conflict has been ongoing for many decades, while continuing to escalate, ceasefire, and negotiations should be the goal, but it seems WWIII might be closer to happening than negotiations happening again.
I won't argue about which side wants what; it's a pointless discussion that won't get anywhere.
I can only warn you not to say anything related to alt-right hate speech, such as claiming that Jews control foreign governments. It's not allowed.
What does AIPAC do?
I can only warn you not to say anything related to alt-right hate speech, such as claiming that Jews control foreign governments. It’s not allowed.
I did not bring that up; you did.
Here ya go, an infograph: https://lemmy.world/post/19431152
Alright, I've warned you twice to stay on topic and not to use alt-right conspiracies, and you're still ranting about this.
Your propaganda post is also unsourced and comes from an extremist account that engages in doxxing--I mean, what? How do you expect the equivalent of a turning point poster to convince anyone? Too far gone, man.
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Edit: Correction: I am good. -> No. I'm good...
No. I'm good, but thanks for the offer.
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Ah, I meant: "No. I'm good."^[[1] https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=I'm Good]
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Ah, thanks for expanding on your meaning.
I disagree; all is well.
I think there is a big difference between critically thinking and propaganda. When you are young you are susceptible to all sorts of ideas.
Young or old, propaganda works on those of all ages; building up our critical thinking skills should be the goal for everyone.
Just looking at the current political tribalism, it is at an all-time high again.
Owner-class media (Main Stream Media or Legacy Media) trust is at an all-time low, while independent journalists are increasing their grassroots support.