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Hahaha ooooh snap! You got me xD
No, you're wrong.
I’m wrong that I don’t believe you?
I never said I approve of those groups, yet you say I did. So your conclusion is based on something I never said.
You approve a group as described, so as described, you’re the Nazi.
I do? I never said that. I do not approve of nazis, I fight against them. But somehow you keep saying I approve of them and keep calling me a nazi. So you're just a troll. Well, you got me to respond so that's a win for you I guess.
I do not approve of nazis, I fight against them.
Except when you’re fighting against those who fight them. Like Israel.
Israel is a right wing extremist state, the last state where apartheid exists, a state annexing land out of greed, a state murdering people from another ethnicity on a mass scale (we call this genocide), committing war crimes and crimes against humanity like torture and bombing schools, hospitals, humanitarian aid and refugee camps. They do not fight nazis, they are the nazis.
And please note it's the Israeli state which talks and acts like a nazi. Not Jewish people in general, not every Israeli inhabitant. Just the state and anyone who supports the state.
Israel is a right wing extremist state
Large portions of Israel have been radicalized by enduring eight decades of genocidal violence from colonialist Arabs, funded by an extremist faith in Iran that holds the extinction of the Jews as a key requirement of imminentizing their eschaton. I don’t deny that. But post October 7, it’s hard to argue they’re overreacting to it. Maybe the Arab neighbors of Israel should try something besides mass killing Jews?
They do not fight nazis, they are the nazis.
No, they fight Nazis. Arab Nazis who torture Jews, Arab Nazis who hide in schools, hospitals, and refugee camps. Arab Nazis who turn humanitarian aid into missiles to kill Jews. The exact same Arabs who allied with Hitler in World War II (proven historical fact) and love him to this day.
You're calling the opposition of an extreme nationalistic state nazis.
But post October 7, it’s hard to argue they’re overreacting to it.
Apartheid isn't overreacting? Enclosing millions in a ghetto, limiting their food, water and electricity is not against human rights? Constantly stealing land is just fine? Stripping people of their rights is just? Torture is good for the right cause? Financing a terrorist organisation like Hamas to continue crimes against humanity isn't wrong?
Except for the concentration camps, they do everything exactly as nazi Germany did. Putting everyone in ghettos, stripping them of their rights, denying them in shops and public places, steal everything from them, torturing them, falsely imprison them without cause or trial, etc. But instead of concentration camps they bomb schools, hospitals, aid workers, refugee camps. They cut them off from drinking water, food transports, electricity. When you find Israel just in their crimes against humanity, during and/or before the war, you're no better then Hitler himself.
Please note I'm not pro Hamas. They are terrorists. But they are a product of the years and years of oppression, apartheid and humanitarian crisis created by the Israeli state.
There is no right or wrong here. There is only wrong and millions of innocent civilians (on both sides but mostly on the Palistinian side).
Apartheid isn't overreacting?
To Oct 7, when thousands of Palestinians streamed over the border to rape, murder, and steal from the Jews?
How could apartheid be an overreaction to that? How could anything short of the complete extinction of Gaza and all living there be anything but an underreaction? If Mexicans did the same thing to Arizona we’d deploy nuclear weapons on Mexico City. Israel, to its immense credit, is more merciful than any other nation on Earth. And Gazans remain the least grateful people alive.
How could apartheid be an overreaction to that?
Apartheid has been going on for years and years now. Just like the rest of the oppression and locking people in a closed off ghetto. Its not a reaction to Oct7. Oct7 is a reaction to apartheid (which was a terrorist act which I condemn).
But besides that, you argue that racism, stripping people of their human rights and identity for an entire group of people is fine when a small group of terrorists commit a terrorist attack?
Crimes against humanity are never fine. No matter what happened. When a few commit a terrorist act, or do whatever horrible thing possible, that still shouldn't justify to become a monster yourself in general, but especially not to thousands of innocent civilians.
The reasoning of "yeah but look what they did" was the reason nazi Germany justified deporting jews to Auschwitz. It's the reason why the US invaded and completely wrecked Afghanistan. It's the reason Russia invaded Ukraine and defends it's war crimes. It's the reason for the ethnic cleansing by Israel and why they refuse to cease fire.
Never justify horrible acts like war crimes and crimes against humanity by saying "but look what they did" because crimes against humanity and war crimes do not have an asterisk or ammendment saying "except when-".