7mo ago

Proton Mail goes AI, security-focused userbase goes ‘what on earth’

pivot-to-ai.com Proton Mail goes AI, security-focused userbase goes ‘what on earth’

If an organization runs a survey in 2024 on whether it should get into AI, then they’ve already bodged an LLM into the system and they’re seeing if they can get away with it. Proton Mail is a priva…

we appear to be the first to write up the outrage coherently too. much thanks to the illustrious @self

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Great, just as I've decided to switch some services to Proton (mail and VPN).
Now I'll have to reconsider this decision.
- The fact that you never realized that you should've self hosted since all corporations will inevitably follow the money, and that politics will always be tied to money, therefore all corporations will make political decisions against your interests makes me lose hope in common sense.
  
  it’s time for you to fuck off back to your self-hosted services that surely aren’t just a stack of constantly broken docker containers running on an old Dell in your closet
  but wait, what’s this?
  @BaroqueInMind@lemmy.one
  oh you poor fucking baby, you couldn’t figure out how to self-host lemmy! and it’s so easy compared with mail too! so much for common sense!
  
  back to your self-hosted services that surely aren’t just a stack of constantly broken docker containers running on an old Dell in your closet
  I feel personally attacked
  
  the closet Dell hosting your services is a fine system (but do fix those broken docker containers, or see about going native). under no circumstances should it be your mail host, though.
  
  I rescued an office spec HP desktop from a trash heap and upgraded it with second hand components from https://computerstoreberlin.de/?lang=eng. Its running Ubuntu server and I use it as a wordpress dev server and also my yt-dlp machine which dumps the files into a samba share. I'm very proud of it
  
  yeah, you can get quite damn far with something like that. best other advice I can give you is to make sure your provisioning and backups are solid (because something will break sometime), and to keep an eye on power draw
  not everything needs to be 902834098234 cores and distributed systems shit
  
  the backups is good advice. I need to put in a second drive and work out how to make it keep a backup. I'm learning all that as I go.
  As for power draw, I only turn it on when I need it and it's not connected to a display - just ssh-ing into it, so hopefully not wasting too much juice.
  
  older-era computers aren't all great on power. the different between something like a c2d and i3 was immense. it's still absolutely fucking mental how little power the apple arm shit draws (for what it does). something like a kill-a-watt or so would be the easiest to do some measurement
  I'll hit you up elsewhere a bit later and share some ideas for backup :)
  
  It had an i3 which I bumped up to an i5-750 (it only cost 4 euros) but it's socket 1156 era, so probably still rather inefficient compared to recent gens, right?
  I’ll hit you up elsewhere a bit later and share some ideas for backup :)
  thanks! that would be great. I already have a NAS with redundancy for my important stuff, but I'm starting to build a large archive of downloaded youtube videos for research projects and I would hate to lose them.
  
  for backups have a look at kopia. not only for the functionality, but for the fact that this whole thing is a static-linked single go binary. drop it where you need it, and you're done.
  
  I'm using two 16TB HDDs in a Raid 1 configuration (one mirrors the other) on my Linux Mint daily driver. I just set it up with mdadm. There are obviously much more complicated ways, but this was simple and convenient for my needs right now.
  
  ur not my reel dad! [launches cyrus+qmail on a pi]
  
  Hey, it's on a table in my office and it currently isn't running shit because that hobby has been de-prioritized until the yard and shed have been dealt with!
  
  *looks at collection of automation and infrastructure for personal and business services, built with going on 20y of knowledge* boy it sure is easy to diyolo some qemu vms myself and not have to pay aws! I'm going to tell everyone else they're doing it wrong!!!!
  (I mean, it legitimately is fairly easy to do a lot of this, but gotta grok the shit and not having the grok is ofc alllll up in aws' product suite)
  
  they go to react conferences, too
  
  they go to re:invent or whatever the one is where Amazon replaces your brain with a cloud, and they’re pretty sure Amplify is self-hosting because the guy with the headset on stage might have screamed it at them
  
  have any of your coworkers come back from re:invent with the all of the symptoms of severe head trauma? you may be entitled to compensation
  
  you may be entitled to promotion
  
  don't shame people for not having the capacity to run their own infra, jeez
  
  Why?
  
  because no-one likes a confidently wrong smug prick
  
  (but seriously, "why?" - you really don't get why? maybe go have a good think on it. on why people might not be in a position to do the thing you suggest them to do. you may become enlightened.)
  
  what are you?
  
  A meat Popsicle.
  
  @BaroqueInMind @cordlesslamp You unironically use words like "windoze" don't you?

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