This just in: Tankies vindicated on CIA backed Hungarian fascist uprising

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As vindicating as this is, I don't think this reveal will change anyone's mind. Anyone who had seriously tried to understand it has already come to the conclusion that tankies were right, even without explicit CIA involvement (and knew the CIA were involved anyway).
Anyone committed to the NATO worldview won't consider this a bad thing or will think the CIA justified in trying to free a sovereign nation from Soviet imperialism.
- One of the things I find very funny is that liberals in the USA will recognize that a lot of their current problems stem from not adequately prosecuting Reconstruction and allowing the former Confederates to regain positions of authority and pass racist laws. Justice deferred etc etc. But somehow the Soviets weren't behaving correctly when they tried to stamp out fascist backsliding on their doorstep a handful of years after the most devastating war in human history.
  
  I understand the liberal perspective. What gets me is when alleged "socialists" are anti Warsaw Pact. The world's capitalist powers just allied against the lone Socialist nation. The US immediately rehabilitated the Nazis while France and Britain still clung to the remnants of their empires. And yet the USSR was supposed to yield over the people the liberated from fascism over to the capitalist empires?
  
  This is one of the things that turned me into a socialist a long time ago. Even liberalism the British monarchy thought was too far and tried to retake their colony in the War of 1812. To me, it was obvious why during the French Revolution carried out so many executions. They saw what monarchies were willing to do and tried to avoid that. Better to kill a few chuds at home than have thousands (or millions) die when the chuds' friends come to help.
  The soviets and China were just following in the footsteps of previous revolutions. Anyone with the slightest understanding of history, especially the leaders of communist factions, knows what happens when you don't purge. It was even more obvious after the American Civil War what would happen if reactionaries weren't eliminated.
  What it comes down to is "White: okay. Black/brown/Slavic: not okay." It's freedom and liberty when rich, white slave owners overthrow their monarchy, but tyranny and authoritarianism when anyone else does the same thing.
- I'm sure they'll handwave this away like the rest of the evidence, but I'm thinking about four years ago when @gammison called everything in Aptheker's book "categorically untrue" with evidence like "the CIA only had one case officer in the country at the time!" I mean, how could they do anything with ONLY ONE smol bean officer of that particular type? no mention of other kinds of agents so they must not have existed right? how could one lil' CIA agent handle that much money or weapons, you silly tankie?
  https://hexbear.net/comment/1029783
  another discrepancy is that they link to supposed "declassified CIA cables" but it's not, it's an article in the "National Security Archives" with its own conclusions, and maybe I'm clueless but I do not see any cable excerpts or a clear idea of any cables, everything seems to be sourced from a "CIA Clandestine History" and I do not trust a supposed "internal history" as much as I would declassified operational cables for real use in decision making.
  this is obviously a petty callout but I didn't feel like my response four years ago was adequate
  
  Crazy to see Hexbears in that old thread defending the anti-communist anti-Jew fascists who tried to revolt in Hungary. 10 upbears even.
  
  yeah the old sub was still closer to Bernie than Lenin, even when it shut down - the move to Hexbear MLified tons of people (myself included)
  
  I don't know enough about the uprising to really weigh in, but what I did find quite funny was reading about Béla Kilály on wikipedia and seeing that he arrived in the US after the suppression of the revolution "speaking good English, having taught himself through an English-Hungarian dictionary while in prison". That's definitely the most likely explanation for those particular language skills.

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