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- UFO Whistleblower Dave Grusch Tells Me Everything - Jesse Michels
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>Dave Grusch is a former 14-year high ranking intelligence officer who left government in early '23 to blow the whistle on UFO’s. In 2019, he was tasked by the National Geospatial Intelligence Agency and Pentagon to investigate UFO’s as part of the Unidentified Anomalous Phenomenon Task Force (or UAPTF). In that context, he slowly started to uncover a covert UFO reverse engineering program being concealed from the civilian government. In June of '23, he outed himself to the public. In July of '23, he testified before Congress. We sat down for hours and talked about the entire history of UFO's, UFO and Atomic secrecy, Presidents and their relationships to UFO's and the insane world of Anti-Gravity research.
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12:00 onwards - Grusch outlines that leakers are under penalty of imprisonment and execution.
16:50 onward “non human Biologics” he stated in an interview previously they’re pilots and he doesn’t know what their actual job was. They were “nonhuman intelligence” pilots.
18:00 onward he was cleared by the Pentagon to talk about this.
19:00 onward Grusch insinuates that the initial reasoning for hiding the information was the ontological shock it would cause in society due to society’s religiousness at the time, along with concealing the information from adversaries like Russia.
20:40 onward - the officials involved in the Manhattan Project also created the laws related to obfuscation and secrecy of the topic. 21:28 - retrieved UAP materials that give off radiation are classified under the Atomic Energy Act (intentionally).
23:00 onward - there was a deeper classified project (related to the Manhattan Project) studying UFOs aside from Project Blue Book
28:00 onward- Grusch states that it’s hard to tell how far ahead their (the nonhuman intelligence) technology is. “It’s hard to state how far in advance it is. You’re just assuming some sort of linear progression. They’ve made an asymptotal leap that put them over the edge. They’re similarly as advanced as us but they’ve had an asymmetric evolution they went a different path than us. While we’ve made nuclear weapons, they’ve made a propulsion discovery but they’re not that much more advanced than you and I”.
29:50- Grusch states that once we unlocked nuclear power we made major technological strides. We may be one discovery away from manipulating spacetime.
30:29- the UFOs are interested in our nuclear technology.
36:00 onward - Grusch references Lue Elizondo’s comment on the ETs studying us and it’s possible the UFO crashes were intentionally seeded to test humanity’s development in relation to being exposed to this technology.
42:00 onwards - there may have been scientific breakthroughs that were hidden from the public.
44:00 - Dr Hal Puthoff of the Pentagon insinuates that antigravity research did get somewhere (made progress) and then was hidden.
47:00 onward - UFO metamaterials are discussed.
59:50- the connection of the “UFO Disclosure” movement (and intentional disinformation) to the “elite” is described by the host.
1:04:00 onwards - there’s a long history of “UFO debunkers” being directly linked to government organizations that have actually studied UAP.
1:17:28- this portion is interesting since it references information that Elizondo and Dr Garry Nolan have stated.
For background, Elizondo (Pentagon), Dr. Garry Nolan (accomplished academic who was approached by the CIA to study UAPs, also stated they told him information regarding the beings operating the crafts), and John Ramirez [CIA- was referenced as having worked there separately by Jim Semivan of the CIA, referenced in this article (https://www.benzinga.com/amp/content/34082411) have all stated, in summary, that members within the defense establishment believe these beings are bioengineered AI.
Grusch notably references this at this time stamp as a possibility to what these beings are. If you notice, he goes out of his way to reference specifically what Elizondo had stated in a past interview, that the ETs are designed to look humanoid to interact with humans. (In Elizondo’s interview, he brought up an example of how zookeepers in China disguise themselves as pandas to interact with the pandas, and what we are seeing is a similar situation).
1:19:30- ETs being our descendants from the future is discussed. The host describes this as being a possible reason for the ET non-interventionism. As in, they don’t want to harm the timeline too much such that their own existence is nullified. (My note: it would be interesting if some of what people have witnessed is in fact humans from the future that have mastered ET propulsion and time travel technology, which is why they only appear fleetingly in some instances and choose not to intervene in major events).
1:27:00 onward - military sensory systems disproportionately detect UFOs since their collection mechanisms are more advanced than what’s available to the average person.
1:32:30 onward - Grusch details how being on the Autism spectrum have shaped his interactions.
Grusch background (wiki): David Charles Grusch is a decorated Afghanistan combat veteran and former Air Force intelligence officer[1] who worked in the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency (NGA) and the National Reconnaissance Office (NRO).[2][3][4][5] From 2019 to 2021, he was the representative of the NRO to the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena Task Force.[3][4][6] From late 2021 to July 2022, he was the co-lead for UAP analysis at the NGA and its representative to the task force.[2] He assisted in drafting the National Defense Authorization Act of 2023,[7] which includes provisions for reporting of UFOs, including whistleblower protections and exemptions to non-disclosure orders and agreements.[8][9][10] Congressional interest in UFO sightings immediately prior to Grusch's public claims surrounded questions about the four objects that the Air Force shot down in February 2023.[11]
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UAP Community,
I hope this message finds you well. As our community continues to expand, we will undoubtedly attract individuals from diverse backgrounds and experiences. UAP and The Phenomenon as a whole have been associated with a myriad of sightings and encounters.
Whether you deem this as mere nonsense, believe in it wholeheartedly, or are just here to gain a deeper understanding, I urge everyone to maintain civility. It's perfectly acceptable to downvote or disagree while providing your reasoning. However, derogatory statements lacking substance will no longer be tolerated. From this point onwards, such remarks will be deleted, and the responsible user will be warned. Lemmy logs any actions taken by mods for the sake of transparency.
To the ardent believers and those who've experienced these phenomena firsthand, I want to ensure you feel safe and encouraged to share your stories. I also ask for your patience and a willingness to seek common ground with our more skeptical members. Conversely, I urge the skeptics among us to approach this topic with an open mind and humility.
Before offering commentary, I recommend investing some time in researching classic UAP cases—our sidebar offers valuable resources. I personally recommend the excellent post An Extensive Collection of Compelling Evidence and My Rational Defense of the Existence of UAP by user GONADS125. It becomes evident who has genuinely delved into the subject and who has merely skimmed it. Most skeptics who've taken the time to research may still desire further evidence or data, while those unfamiliar with the topic often resort to derogatory comments or dismissive gestures.
This distinction will become even more pronounced when discussions veer into more controversial or 'woo' territories. If you're unsure what I mean, you might need to acquaint yourself more with the subject matter.
Apologies for the lengthy message; I'll conclude now. Remember, we are all members of the human family. We've gathered in this community driven by a shared curiosity about the nature of our existence and our role within the cosmos. I welcome each one of you, regardless of your beliefs or backgrounds. Please, enter this community with an open heart and mind and leave your ego and any preconceptions at the door. Whether there's a mundane explanation for UAP, or the reality is more mystifying than we can comprehend, our collective quest for understanding continues.
Thank you all for your time and understanding. Please reach out if you have any questions or concerns.
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- UFO Whistleblower Dave Grusch Tells Me Everything - Jesse Michels
- Latest Pentagon report reveals hundreds of new UFO sightingswww.theguardian.com Latest Pentagon report reveals hundreds of new UFO sightings
There are no suggestions of extraterrestrial origin, but that won’t settle any debates over the existence of alien life
- Inside Capitol Hill's Latest UFO Hearingstime.com Inside Capitol Hill's Latest UFO Hearings
Witnesses argue that the government knows more than it's admitting.
- DefenseScoop: 'The truly anomalous’: New AARO chief unveils Pentagon’s annual UAP caseload analysis, new effortsdefensescoop.com 'The truly anomalous’: New AARO chief unveils Pentagon’s annual UAP caseload analysis, new efforts
As they continue to investigate and resolve a growing caseload of hundreds of reports about encounters with unidentified anomalous phenomena (UAP), officials in the Pentagon’s All-Domain Anomaly Resolution Office (AARO) are also launching new projects and resources to declassify materials, promote t...
>“There are interesting cases that I — with my physics and engineering background and time in the [intelligence community] — I do not understand and I don’t know anybody else who understands,” Kosloski told reporters.
- C-SPAN: Hearing on Unidentified Anomalous Phenomenawww.c-span.org Hearing on Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena
Subcommittees of the House Oversight and Accountability Committee held a joint hearing on alleged government research of unidentified anomalous phenomena (UAPs). Independent journalist Michael Shellenberger testified on an allegedly secret government program, "Immaculate Constellation," and he submi...
Subcommittees of the House Oversight and Accountability Committee hold a joint hearing on secret government research programs pertaining to Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena.
- “Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Exposing the Truth”: House of Representatives Joint Hearing
Joint hearing on UAPs with the Subcommittee on Cybersecurity, Information Technology, and Government Innovation (Committee on Oversight and Accountability) and the Subcommittee on National Security, the Border, and Foreign Affairs (Committee on Oversight and Accountability).
Witnesses
Luis Elizondo Author, Former Department of Defense Official
Dr. Tim Gallaudet, Ph.D.; Rear Admiral, U.S. Navy (Ret.) Chief Executive Officer, Ocean STL Consulting, LLC
Michael Gold Former NASA Associate Administrator of Space Policy and Partnerships, Member of NASA UAP Independent Study Team
Michael Shellenberger Founder, Public
Wednesday, November 13, 2024 (11:30 AM)
- Avi Loeb’s Statement on UAPs to the House Oversight and Accountability Committeeavi-loeb.medium.com Avi Loeb’s Statement on UAPs to the House Oversight and Accountability Committee
Over the past few months, I was asked multiple times by Staff of the House Committee on Oversight and Accountability whether I am available…
- Richard Dolan on UAP Disclosure Day
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- NewsNation: UFO hearings scheduled by House for November 13www.newsnationnow.com House announces UAP hearings for Nov. 13
The hearing follows multiple whistleblower claims of secret UFO programs.
- Mystery UFOs swarm US Military base
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- The Black Vault: Heavily Redacted UAP Briefing Between UAP Task Force and NASA Releasedwww.theblackvault.com Heavily Redacted UAP Briefing Between UAP Task Force and NASA Released - The Black Vault
A recent release of documents obtained through two Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) requests filed by The Black Vault in 2021 and 2022, has shed light on a briefing about Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (now referred to as Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena [UAP]) by the UAP Task Force (UAPTF) for NASA...
- National Archives: Transfer of Publicly Releasable Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP) Recordswww.archives.gov AC 04.2025
Date: October 10, 2024 Memorandum to Federal Agency Records Officers: Transfer of Publicly Releasable Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP) Records This memo is for federal agencies with UAP records responsive to sections 1841–1843 of the 2024 National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) (Public Law 1...
AC 04.2025
Date: October 10, 2024
Memorandum to Federal Agency Records Officers: Transfer of Publicly Releasable Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP) Records
This memo is for federal agencies with UAP records responsive to sections 1841–1843 of the 2024 National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) (Public Law 118-31) (now at 44 U.S.C. 2107 note).
No later than September 30, 2025, federal agencies must transfer to NARA digital copies of all UAP records identified by October 20, 2024, that can be publicly disclosed, including those that were publicly available on December 22, 2023, the date of the enactment of the Act. We request that agencies transfer materials on a rolling basis and as soon as possible rather than waiting until the deadline.
Agencies with publicly releasable UAP records should contact NARA at projects.researchservices@nara.gov as soon as possible to provide information as to their transfer plans and to initiate transfer of publicly releasable UAP records in advance of September 30, 2025. Each publicly releasable UAP record must include metadata according to the guidance to agencies announced in AC 26.2024.
For any publicly releasable records that include redactions, agencies must simultaneously transfer redacted and unredacted copies to NARA. NARA will only accept digital versions of UAP records. UAP records transferred to NARA in accordance with the Act will be part of Record Group 615, Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena Records Collection.
Further guidance on the review and transfer procedures for classified or otherwise restricted UAP records using the standards for withholding specified in Section 1843 of the Act will be forthcoming.
WILLIAM FISCHER Chief Records Officer for the U.S. Government (Acting)
CHRIS NAYLOR Executive for Research Services
- Pentagon Is Illegally Hiding Secret UFO Program From Congress, Whistleblowers Allegewww.public.news Pentagon Is Illegally Hiding Secret UFO Program From Congress, Whistleblowers Allege
New government whistleblower reveals, for the first time, the name of the Unacknowledged Special Access Program (USAP) for Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAPs)
- CTV News: Image released of mysterious object shot down over Yukon in 2023www.ctvnews.ca Image released of mysterious object shot down over Yukon in 2023
An image of the unidentified object shot down over Canada's Yukon territory in February 2023 has been obtained by CTVNews.ca.
- Rehash of the importance of Karl Nell, his experience, seniority, and statements he's made.
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This video is a well put together rehashing of Karl Nell and his significance in disclosure.
- Skeptic Michael Shermer on Lue Elizondo
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Shermer is a skeptic, not a debunker. He brings up convincing arguments that I would certainly like to see answers to. He mentions that he reached out to Lue for an interview.
I personally would really like to see how Lue would handle questioning from someone like Shermer or even Mick West.
- National Archives: Bulk Downloads for Records Related to Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAPs)www.archives.gov Bulk Downloads for Records Related to Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAPs)
Digitized and born-digital records related to Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAPs) in the National Archives Catalog are available here in bulk downloads produced from the Catalog records. The downloadable zip files containing image, video, and PDF files are linked below, along with JavaScript Obj...
- Paradigm-Changing UFO Transparency Legislation Fails In Congress For Second Consecutive Year — Liberation Times | Reimagining Old Newswww.liberationtimes.com Paradigm-Changing UFO Transparency Legislation Fails In Congress For Second Consecutive Year — Liberation Times | Reimagining Old News
An unprecedented Senate amendment aimed at increasing transparency on Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP), introduced by U.S. Senators Mike Rounds and Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer, has been excluded from the Senate’s National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2025 (NDAA FY 2025) M
- Luis Elizondo - “Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs” | The Daily Show
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- Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena Disclosure Act - Wikipedia
Wiki article on the UAPDA made yesterday.
- Another UFO Boss to Break Silence in Memoirwww.hollywoodreporter.com Another UFO Boss to Break Silence in Major Book Deal: “The Process of Disclosure Has Begun”
Jay Stratton's memoir promises to reveal "shocking discoveries, challenges and breakthroughs" in the government's research on UFOs/UAPs.
- Major U.S. Law Enforcement Organization Releases Detailed Guide on UAPuapregister.substack.com Major U.S. Law Enforcement Organization Releases Detailed Guide on UAP
The Major Cities Chiefs Association released a comprehensive guide on UAP in June for state and local law enforcement agencies that is "intended to spur discussions within agencies."
- Mick West criticism of Lue Elizondo's "Imminent"
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I am very much pro-disclosure. However, Mick West has some convincing arguments about how Elizondo got many of the technical details wrong regarding the most well known UAP videos. This, West argues, brings all other claims Elizondo makes into question.
Personally I would like to see Elizondos response to Wests recent criticism.
- Chinwag Podcast (Paul Giamatti and Stephen Asma): The UFO Episode with Leslie Kean
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- What Does Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer Know About UFOs?www.splinter.com What Does Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer Know About UFOs?
Splinter is your home for news and opinions that challenge power in our political and economic system that's becoming more unhinged each and every day.
- I investigated UAPs at the Pentagon—Americans can handle the truthwww.newsweek.com I investigated UAPs at the Pentagon—Americans can handle the truth
When there is a threat for which there is no solution, governments prefer not to discuss it publicly.
- CBS: Luis Elizondo discusses new book "Imminent" and the Pentagon's UAP investigations
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- Research perhaps with real information about aliens abducting and exploiting people. Picture in post perhaps also prove these aliens are real. More info with a text document and other files in links.
- Should look at the image of this post. Perhaps ways to see the image larger could for example click on the image icon and click the image or right click the image to open in a new tab or window or drag and drop the image into a tab to perhaps load the image URL. Alternatively maybe when loaded in this post can click the title or right click the title to open in a new tab or window or drag and drop the title to a tab that way.
Red lines drawn to perhaps compare the ship floor plan drawing from the image of the ship on secureteam10’s video with this perhaps ship floor plan diagram drawing from David Jacobs presentation video.
The ship drawing on David Jacobs presentation video are perhaps from someone who had done hypnotic regression with David Jacobs who perhaps were abducted into the ship depicted in the drawing. The floor plan drawing of the ship really does seem to look very similar to the picture on secureteam10’s video. So perhaps the person were abducted into the same or similar ship with what’s on secureteam10’s video.
- Also just to note hypnotic regression are perhaps just being relaxed and able to remember memories. It should be impossible for any person to control someone else's mind since any person only control theirself. Someone can perhaps have a belief system like to do what someone says but still any person are not another person, anyone only control theirself.
Also, I myself am certain I had seen the exact same ship perhaps when I were abducted while feeling like I were asleep. More information in the text document.
Main text document called "Information about totalitarian and manipulative aliens":
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1fmdRfZ5y3pbi1W-CZrOaX3u1sQJtnvRiq7XHvSkzi2g/edit?usp=sharing
ZIP file that should have the text document and more information:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ja7nqDa0dlCVnnduwmhHRcqkmmTPj5cT/view?usp=sharing
Google Drive folder that should have same files as the ZIP file so can perhaps look at and download each individual file:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/11y1ttJjEU3hKXGcIP4FZh14EB4uwk_h5?usp=sharing
Archive .org link with the ZIP file:
https://archive.org/details/information-about-totalitarian-and-manipulative-aliens
MEGA .nz link with the ZIP file:
https://mega.nz/file/QQwyyKDK#edEsLGsK7UObrVvYcWdzkpoTrfCCPIyGhNoHA7pGGwo
Link for the photo of the alien ship in secureteam10’s youtube video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVFk8nHaeB8
- Video called: GIRL NEAR AREA 51 SNAPS HD PICS OF ALIEN UFO BEFORE ABDUCTION! UFOS ARE REAL 2015
Link for the floor plan drawing on David Jacobs presentation video (image starting at and explained at 19:07 of the video) – I've re uploaded this video on my youtube channel:
https://youtu.be/OfQ_P7H7FhQ?t=1147
- Video called: David Jacobs Presentation - video with ship floor plan drawing Research and own experience are that these aliens are in the wrong.
These aliens exploit people as a genetic resource for use with making human hybrids. They are totalitarian, I’ve heard of psychological manipulation, torture.
I do hope any alien person or anyone for that matter change from being in the wrong, to not be totalitarian and instead be decentralized to ensure each other’s well being.
- Popular Mechanics: Are Underwater UFOs an Imminent Threat? The U.S. Government Sure Thinks So—And Here’s the Proofwww.popularmechanics.com Are Underwater UFOs an Imminent Threat? The U.S. Government Sure Thinks So—And Here’s the Proof
Legislators went so far as to formally change the way they refer to UFO sightings over and under bodies of water.
- Did a UFO crash in Kingman? Leaked documents claim it did.www.12news.com Did a UFO crash in Kingman? Leaked documents claim it did.
A conversation between government officials claimed the U.S. seized a UFO back in 1953 that crashed outside Kingman.