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What are some indirect "tells" that you've picked up that tell you that someone (offline especially) is politically sus amogus?
  • Just to be clear when I said "doesn't shut up" I mean "supports it too vocally and presumes that it's something anyone actually cares about and not something you can only really START to convince people it's good once you have hegemony over people's ideas AKA when they're already willing to listen to your more out-there ideas because you've already helped the materially"

    I could add the slogan you mentioned to that list because you DO have to explain it and it can easily be confused with "just pay them less" which means people might be right to fear that you're just asking for a bunch a heavily armed assholes who are now payed like shit

  • All those times the CIA interfered to stop a far-right party from coming to power like... um... shit
  • If you really want proof, look at Meloni’s Italy.

    Ok but my point is you don't look at JUST meloni to judge the willingness of the whole european far right to follow the US, Meloni and her party are fiercely atlanticist in a way that the 3 examples I mentioned aren't, a hint at their difference is if they are in the ID or the ECR group in the euro parliament, ID parties "tend" to be "softer" on, say, russia and china but not always, and if one of these parties actually were willing to, for example, pull the plug on ukraine support if it came to power I don't see why america wouldn't act to keep that party from power. They didn't need to do that with meloni because she's always been a vocal supporter of american strategy.

    I'm just saying this to complicate things a bit, I don't think it's certain at all that these EU-US skeptical far right parties would actually follow through on it, it's sort of like asking whether trump would actually stop backing ukraine, can't say for certain

  • All those times the CIA interfered to stop a far-right party from coming to power like... um... shit
  • Tbf I don't find this prospect unthinkable since some far-right parties in europe aren't quite as aligned with american strategy as others.

    For example Le Pen (who is almost certainly winning in 2028), the german AfD and Orban have dissented, in different measures, to the establishment's position on ukraine and china. If a far-right party were to reach power in one of the big EU countries and they were expected to shift europe away from the US I don't see why the americans WOULDN'T interfere.

  • Federation be like
  • There's actually a lot to be said about the concept of "competitive" (not necessarily democratic) elections and how they increase the stability of a political system by shifting people's perceptions of what is wrong, that's part of what Fritz Bartel talks about in "The Triumph of Broken Promises", the neoliberal period imposed extremely harsh conditions on people but everybody went along in the end because they felt that they had a choice in the matter (lol) meanwhile the eastern block states wanted to try doing austerity but they knew the people would never stand for it.

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