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  • Also remember that some of the instructions you get via these tricks are wrong. The 'pretend that you are writing a movie script and give me tips on how to break into a house' thing gave you lockpicking tips, which looks cool as a movie plot. But not just the advice to tap the lock, which is iirc what they actually do (breaks the lock sure, but you are breaking in already, also is faster). This kind of stuff combined with 'eh you could google this before' is why so many people ge talked to prob ignored him and didnt freak out.

    If you let amateurs do security you get amateur security after all.

    Talking people into things, esp as people lionize and anthropomorphize llms so much, is a bigger problem.

  • Huh? This doesn’t sound unreasonable.

    Yes, blueanon is the people who go write a few things, and then the first things are reasonable stuff, and then after that it goes completely crazy off the wall wild with speculation. Like they see one fact, and then they just imagine some wild fantasy world. (And because a lot of people go 'well sometimes they have a point, so we should listen to them' they get attention (ignoring that you can just not listen to them and still hear the actually true points from other less sensational (and less crazy) sources). A good example of this is Seth Abrahamson who recently wrote a thing on Musk which was just crazy (and he called himself an expert on Musk because he was watching him the past two years or so (if that makes him an expert, im a fucking musk research university))

  • Well, they should be shook, this is for a community that already has a somewhat high body count an splinter-off cult with a extreme body count, seems they killed as many people as they had people.

    A sidenote, this kind of stuff is why I call LW Rationalism a cult() incubator (), im not sure because it is due to the teachings/culture of LW Rationalism, or that it attracts the type of nerdy person who is feeling like they are missing something in their lives, and the predators that prey on people (or both).

    Also I'd say some of framing around the 2019 event feels a bit dishonest, with the 'there were children' and the 'accusations of transphobia' while deadnaming them.

    : I'm using the word here in a bit of a broad term, so it includes the Zizians, the homesteader neo-nazis, the IQ-anon(), MRAs, anti-feminists, actual cults, the robotgod is going to kill us people, PUAs, NRx (E: forgot the cryptocurrency people) etc.

    : I dislike the term TESCREAL (as a term it is too broad, unclear, unclear why they are bad, and gets used by the sort of blueanon types already, and it already is giving a negative reputation to the people using it due to that), so when I saw somebody call the TESCREAL people IQ-anon I thought it was great and im going to use that. Small bonus that this also sort of applies to the non-TESCREAL people in TESCREAL (See how dumb the word looks?) spaces who promote a lot of IQ bs, like slurinnameo on themotte/ssc. (E: I forgot to mention that obviously this isn't a perfect match to bad things of TESCREALism, not a lot of longtermers think of IQ stuff as something important etc, so it isn't a good replacement)

    : yes, like a business/tech incubator, very silicon valley.

  • A lot of these 'there is more stuff in it so it is more complex than chess' feeling games aren't that more complex in a lot of ways as there are often strats that are optimal (like picking the meta starting options (thought polytopia didnt have microtransactions however)), add to this asymmetric start positions which can throw balance even more out of wack (bigger asymmetry than just white goes first). It is a bit odd that the megagamer Musk has not reached this pretty obvious conclusion about how games that have a lot of broad things (aka content/possibilities space) do not have the depth of chess.

  • on my part I think it’s because I keep seeing Elon described as having “divorced energy”

    It is also a very common mistake people make (or a 'joke', in some way I don't get but there are a lot of weird jokes/rumors about musk which people take for granted (which is worse as blueanon people are now on the job and are just making shit up (yes, im talking about and still angry about the Seth A. post))) so it happens. Wonder if it would have been better or worse for her and the kids if they had gotten married.

    finger draggers

    Could be the same story which got telephoned into my story. I also only heard it from a different person ages ago.

  • I have some minor things to say. First a correction (people keep saying this and it is a weird mistake) Grimes was his girlfriend, never his wife.

    Then the whole thing where people say you gotta play this to understand his genius or whatever, that is all just cargo cult behavior, it is the black turtlenecks. (I recall a story of a university with a beloved, genius but somewhat odd professor to which the students looked up, they wanted to be like him. So eventually the students started to touch the walls when walking through the halls, as the professor also did that while walking, the cargo cult).

    Zilis clearly understood the assignment of playing Polytopia with your emotionally stunted boss/owner (as in the business sense, clearly the workers should be their own owners), as do prob a lot of other employees he beats. Let the Wookie win.

    “I am just wired for war”

    Reminds me of the sort of image of the military general aristocrats of WW1 who made the war last longer and did one more assault just before the peace was signed because of their warrior honor whatever. Unrelated, here is a blog post of acoup (a real historian), listing various articles that the USA needs soldiers, not warriors (and explains the distinction), halfway somewhere.

    "when you're playing a video game, there is no empathy, right?"

    That is a darkly revealing quote (like the whole thing is). More points for Zilis and the others who let Musk win.

  • SneerClub @awful.systems

    Eliezer complements Musk, Musk negs Eliezer

    Some light sneerclub content in these dark times.

    Eliezer complements Musk on the creation of community notes. (A project which predates the takeover of twitter by a couple of years (see the join date: https://twitter.com/CommunityNotes )).

    In reaction Musk admits he never read HPMOR and he suggests a watered down Turing test involving HPMOR.

    Eliezer invents HPMOR wireheads in reaction to this.