@Trollception @silence7

Exon Mobil's risk assessment. Go out of business ASAP!

@silence7

Rule or laws are the key point. Not voluntary participation. We should not allow polluting industries to decide their own terms of service

@Apollonius_Cone @silence7

The headline sounds like the rhetoric that a greenwasher would say.

If Tech-Based-Carbon-Removal (TBCR) was practical, scientists who are concerned about climate change would be promoting it.

"We" don't promote TBCR because it's not a scalable solution. The fuel Industries are 'worried' because they know they will one day go out of business. But, for as long as they can get away with it, they promote anything that makes burning their fuels sound 'sustainable'

@Lats @silence7

We can leave it in the ground and it would be crazy to want to "max out oil and gas"

"crazy" as in an obvious sign that some politicians don't understand what the hell they're talking about.

Or to be more polite, they're not listening to the scientific advice because they don't understand the science. George Monbiot thinks some leaders are sociopaths.

However, the fact that #COP28 agreed that fossil fuels need to be phased out, is a big win for humanity (considering)

@silence7

Vast majority of fossil fuels ‘must stay in ground’ to stem climate crisis https://www.carbonbrief.org/daily-brief/vast-majority-of-fossil-fuels-must-stay-in-ground-to-stem-climate-crisis/

#ClimateChange #science

@silence7 @climate

In Norway many homes have heat pumps & are well insulated, in the UK most homes don't & aren't ( governments policies make a difference)

There must be more than 50% of houses in the county l live in, in the UK, that are poorly insulated buildings with friggin fire places or wood burners for heating (inadequate governance)

@silence7 @neanderthal

Generally, the fossil fuel industry needs to bury its idea's deep deep underground where they can't hurt anybody.

If we had governments that knew what they were doing & had the power, they'd set a future date by which time the fuel industries will be closed down (permanently)

That would motivate the type of transition needed to prevent a worsening #ClimateCrisis

Its amazing what society could do if decision makers were up against a dead line (prevent death line)

@silence7

Always leaving a loophole for the business of the fuel industries. How, for example, are they going end the emissions of burning fuel in the myriad forms of combustion engined machines?

They can't even say what we must do, end the burning of fuels, because it's the fuel industries that are directing their policies.

@riodoro1 @blanketswithsmallpox @climate

They do fabricate a lot of BS to deflect the attention away from the problem. Burning fuel!

Reduction via energy efficiency & switching over to electricity, via wind, solar, water (wave, tidal, hydro) & thermal is right direction of travel. So yea, electric public transport, instead of private cars, generally does the same task, with far less resources (inc. power demands)

@sonori

I think you're genuinely thinking about solutions, but, your knowledge base needs working on.

"fertilizer and pesticides, which honestly don’t matter climate wise"

They honestly do matter very much!

The "climate" isn't some abstract phenomenon that exists outside of the planet's ecosystems. Insects are fundamental components of an ecosystem. Insecticides kill insects!

Overuse of fertilizer, both organic and synthetic, runs of the land into rivers and oceans (i.e., more pollution)

@sonori

"If we are to replace fossil fuel in heating"

You make it sound like a choice.

I don't know where you live, however, in the UK we've had decades of government incompetence; because they're "buddies" with the fossil fuel industries.

So, if they hadn't been so crap, we could have had well-insulated buildings that were heated using heat pumps.

The obvious point is, ALL sectors of what's called an economy need to either be more efficient or go out of business.

@sonori @silence7

Yep, we must have energy to power the industrial complex. I mean, what would happen if we couldn't keep the lights on at at weapons factories? Or, heaven forbid, all those Christmas lights and masses of other non-essential products and services?

What will it take for people to take the effects of a degrading nature seriously? When there is another crazy war, it's all folk can think about.

It does make me question why so many "leaders" keep on making the same bad mistakes.

@ondoyant @Dogyote

Do you mean that the technology does exist, but, for example, the fossil fuel industries want us to use the technologies that keep them in business?

I've also heard that the owners of shops want to sell their products (it's not speculation)

And then there is your average consumer, or at least where l live, who is either not thinking that much about pumping fuel into their 'beloved' CEV or is concerned, but, for example, it's not as if governments & industries are helping

@ondoyant @Dogyote

Do you mean that the technology does exist, but, for example, the fossil fuel industries want us to use the technologies that keep them in business?

I've also heard the owners of shops want to sell their products (it's not speculation)

And then there is your average consumer, or at least where l live, who is either not thinking that much about pumping fuel into their 'beloved' CEV or is concerned, but, for example, it's not as if governments & industries are helping.

@MrMakabar @huginn @climate

Small modular nuclear reactor?

Not in my back yard, thanks. Not that these industries tend to ask.

@huginn @otter @climate

There are locations where, judging by the general populations ignorant attitudes, they don't have enough sense to give a shit about air quality or global warming.

However, in western "educated" society, those general attitudes have been formed due to corruption.

For example, where l live the general public are simply not exposed to the facts about air pollution & climate change. Many live in their own social bubbles & are exposed to industry propaganda