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‘They will vote against Harris’: Arab Americans in Michigan desert Democrats over Gaza
  • yawn absolutely false. You have other options. you're just too afraid to exercise them. That's a you issue, you are willing to put up with harris/biden committing genocide and breaking strikes because you're scared of trump. I'm not. and yes, I'm aware of the mathematics behind FTFP. sadly fortunately they dont apply in my state.

    1. write to your congress critters telling them to support weapon bans and to push harris. I've done this have you?
    2. ensure your local government is well populated with non-maga's. I've done this have you?

    You're controlled by fear. I'm not. My state is well insulated from trump and SCOTUS. If democrats and harris want to win they need to enforce the leahy act at a minimum. If harris wants to be the law and order candidate then she needs to move on these issues. she won't sadly but thats a her problem, not a me problem.

    You also clearly dont understand 'both sides' critique. there are clear differences between the candidates. harris is clearly superior. she just isn't superior enough to overlook committing genocide and breaking strikes. for you she clearly is. that is a you issue.

  • What if I told you....
  • Incorrect. she has said plenty on gaza. for example she has said she'll remain committed to supporting israel's war, that they have a right to our weapons and support. shes remained uncommitted on khan and other policy issues. I dont see why I should support a candidate with such a questionable moral compass and a well known history for prosecuting weed crimes and being a corporate bootlicker. 🤷 but again your vote is your vote. just don't bitch about your candidate losing when she can't even clear a basic human decency bar of fucking not enabling genocide.

  • why is this race so close?
  • its because their corporate owners don't want to have to implement left wing economic policies for the good of the nation. unfortunately we'll continue to have fascist bogey men until people start holding dems accountable.

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  • na you just dont know how to relax and have a good time in an environment you don't enjoy. clearly trump does. the guy is a danger to the country but this isn't a thing we need to waste our time on, just makes you look like a incredibly maladjusted person.

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  • The dude sucks at dancing like most maladjusted white men. i dont see an issue here out side of his rampant racism and fascism. we can do better.

    Honestly? I'd be more likely to attend a political rally if they had more dancing and less pomp.

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  • he was probably just on shrooms/molly or something similar. the guy is a menace but seriously? knocking a person for vibing out to music because they're sick of the campaign trail? honestly i wish he just did that all the time and left everyone else alone with his racist/facist non-sense.

  • ‘They will vote against Harris’: Arab Americans in Michigan desert Democrats over Gaza
  • narrator: and then, under harris, it continued to get worse.

    biden admin is about to cause an regional outbreak of war. causing our friends and family to be pulled into it. all because he wouldn't redirect a few boats to ukraine. I have 0 interest in trump but harris needs to pull her head out of her ass and commit to enforcing the leahy law w/ israel.

  • ‘They will vote against Harris’: Arab Americans in Michigan desert Democrats over Gaza
  • well I'm gonna say... if enabling genocide doesn't make you a single issue voter I suspect you're morally deficient of an individual. Frankly while genocide is enough Harris has a number of issues you're free to overlook by claiming people are 'single issue' just because a thread is covering a particular topic.

    • doesn't support labor. (won't commit to keeping khan, will break a strike whenever convenient)
    • won't be effective at reducing inflation/cost of living.
    • won't be effective at humane immigration.
    • won't be effective at health care reform. both at a cost and medicinally via weed/psychedelics legalization.
  • ‘They will vote against Harris’: Arab Americans in Michigan desert Democrats over Gaza
  • I mean their single issue is Harris supports murdering their friends and family via her Israel proxy. If you're going to have a single issue to decide your vote I can't think of a better one.

    Personally Harris lost my vote for two main reasons:

    • her continued support of genocide. while its true israel has a right to defend itself, it doesn't have a right to support of the US while doing so. we have laws on the books for this precise reason and they need to be enforced.
    • her unwillingness to commit to supporting labor. won't commit to khan, will likely happily break a striking union whenever she can as evidenced by the train union and wouldn't have 'changed a thing' comment.

    There are a bunch of other things I could overlook but not those two. I jokingly sent my friend a message yesterday.

    God it amazes me to watch a candidate who is part of a historically low approval admin go 'im not wrong its the voters who are wrong'. repeatedly.

    my friends response? 'I can't tell which candidate you're talking about' which was precisely my point.

  • ‘They will vote against Harris’: Arab Americans in Michigan desert Democrats over Gaza
  • False dichotomy and incorrect question. It doesn't matter who wins the next presidency. the general outcomes will be the same.

    will both candidates break strikes when convenient to their corporate overlords? yes. will both candidates continue to drain our economy by not reforming health care/holding corporations accountable? yes. (as demonstrated by harris' unwillingness to commit to keeping khan) will both candidates continue to support israel wholeheartedly? yes.

    the only different is the speed of the decline. frankly I'm done emotionally suffering because the national democrats are shit people. you're welcome to your positions and beliefs I just have no interest in supporting them when all they do is cause more harm to my communities. I also live in a blue bastion, harris' will win here regardless of my actions and my local government will more or less prevent the worst of trumps nonsense for my community.

  • ‘They will vote against Harris’: Arab Americans in Michigan desert Democrats over Gaza
  • I will note your liberal dem in this comic also didn't get in the raft through their own inability to take the correct path regardless of the choices of others. which I think is pretty spot on for individuals like yourself.

  • ‘They will vote against Harris’: Arab Americans in Michigan desert Democrats over Gaza
  • context matters. you have no idea what state many people live in. I, for example, live in a reliably blue stronghold. harris will win no matter how I vote. so I don't vote for democrats when when there is a better option on the ballot.

    There is no value in voting for a party that doesn't support my values/interests. I personally don't like many of de la cruz's policies, they are poorly constructed, however I think she likely has a better moral compass and backbone than harris does. I'm giving harris until the end of the week to fix her positions on khan and ideally irsael, but i doubt she will so she wont be getting my vote.

  • ‘They will vote against Harris’: Arab Americans in Michigan desert Democrats over Gaza
  • In other words, people voting for 3rd party or Trump over this issue are morons

    incorrect you're missing context of reliably blue states. I most certainly dont need to vote for democrats and can essentially do what I want w/ respect to the presidential ticket.

    All the nonsense from the liberal idiots in the democratic party miss this critical contextual bit of information. I happily vote 3rd party whenever there is one that aligns more closely with my goals. its just rare one does; because it simply doesn't matter in my state for the outcome.

    My ballot typically goes:

    • 3rd party for pres
    • dem/independents for most local positions

    all this blue no matter who are just brain dead lunacy by the party is essentially: The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final and most essential command.

    Hopefully some day we'll be able to have reasonable conversations about the toxicity of the democratic party but we just are not there yet and unfortunately the Ukrainians and Palestinians are paying the price in blood and harris doesnt have the backbone to challenge her corporate owners. Biden lost my support when he broke the train union strike. I believe he and harris would have broken the port workers strike as well if it wasn't a month before the election.

    things that prevent me from voting for harris:

    • wont enforce the leahy laws with israel. israel absolutely does have a right to defend itself, it doesn't have a right to be supported by the US tax payers. if the MIC wants money there is a far more moral war going on we can increase support for. (HUGE red flag)
    • wont commit to keeping Ms khan. (HUGE red flag)
    • i don't trust her w/ respect to union support. I believe she'll break unions just like biden did. which is why he lost my support.
    • her continuous attempts to gaslight the american people over biden's mental decline makes her untrustworthy as an individual.

    until then I'll continue advocating for and campaigning for election reform and primarying useless democrats. She could probably swing my vote if she commits to khan and never breaking a strike as those are important to the health of our country and economy but at this point its clear she wont shift.

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