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  • I'd to ask what should then we do in case of a dictatorship, for example? Just lay down and fear the F-35s?

    Yes, even if everyone has a wallmat glock we'd outgunned by a mile by let's say the military, but also you can't just bomb and kill the shit out of your labor and infrastructure — I mean, you can, also you can bomb and kill enough to get them to submit, but that is just not something you can just keep doing indefinetly. It is also very hard to maintain a economy going with a big insurrection going and there is were guns bring a point, they give you at least a figthing chance, way better than nothing.

    I'd also like to point out the ad hominem of calling the hypotetical gun owner a "McFucksHisSister" it brings nothing of value to the conversation.

    I also do not belive carrying a gun around is something needed -by almost anyone- but ownership is important.

  • I dont know. 😆 im really just trying to get it in case -for example- of needing to advice someone in such a case :) my confusion probably comes from the fact that I have never host anything outside containers.

    I still see it a bit diferent. A well structured container structure with configs as files instead of bare commands, back up volumes would be the same effort... But who knows. Regarding the rest like proxies, well you do not really need one.

    Thanks taking the time to explain you point tho!

  • Yes, but doesn't that also apply for a machine running bare git?

    Not containers also adds some challenges with posibly having dependecies problems. I'd say running bare git is not a lot easier than having a container with say forgejo.

  • It is about the ability to trace back, not to be traced.

    Ws1------|----++++++++---| Ws2------| | ----Client 1 Ws3------|. VPN |----Client 2 Ws4------| |----Client 3 ... | | ... Wsn------| |----Client m

    Since there are multimple outside conections (wb1..n), the traffic to the VPN clnent is encripted and each client can have multiople connections (thats why i used Client m and not Client n) you can not in a reliable fashion tell which connection will be sent to which client.

    Now your case:

    Ws1------|----++++++++---| Ws2------| | ----Client 1 Ws3------|. VPS. | Ws4------| | ... | | Wsn------| |

    You can in that case reliable say that all the traffic is being piped to Client 1, because ks the only client.

    From there a motivated party can trace back you traffic to you ISP, if you got a fixed IP you can be trace back to.

    If you are behind a CGNAT that party will need help from your ISP, to see where the fraffic went. Which tbf I neglected to mention before, but still changes the trust from you VPS to you ISP.

    To be REALLY fair this tho no wholly easy is also not incredibly hard given you have the right hardware in the right place, I just wanted to explain why mixing your traffic with others has an advantage over a single person VPN

  • I'd argue that deanonimation would be easier.

    In a VPN you have hundreds of clients and also hundreds of outbound connections, tho not impossible is way harder to find out which connection is being piped to which client. On you own hosted VPS, if you have a dedicated ip is easier, all the traffic will be redirected to only one address, then one of your client.

    Even with a vps with a shared ip the number of clients mantaning open connections is probably way lower on average.

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  • I understand what you are saying but I do not think making services inaccsessible for a part of the population will be worst in the long run. As the OP of this threat said, bots are a hugh problem. Even with moderate resources a motivated party can do a lot of harm if allowed to have their bots to have access to the service, misinformation is the danger that readily comes to mind. In that sense is easier and more effective -not better or fair- to restrict the access for some, and catch most of bots.

    But at the end of the day is all futile, AI will be able to solve most -if not all of- these puzzles soon enough. The best solution imo is to let the bots in, teach people how to read critally and how to cool down before speaking/posting.

    But from a bussiness point of view educating people is not very palatable in most cases.

  • I do sometimes get important calls from some gov. office or something like that. As a example, I lost my wallet and a about a week later the office in charged of the found-lost things called to say someone had found it and I could pick it up.

    But to be fair I only ever got 1 scam call and most people I know got the same one (Europolice scam last year)

    Like, where I live scam/sell calls are just not a thing, so might be regional.

    Buy yeah, thanks for the answer, I get you point now.