And now let me spread a little bit of my favourite Russian misinformation.
This is how Ukrainian people react to "enemy" hitting the building of (and possibly killing several of) the brave TCC/TCR heroes helping people to enlist against the invading orcs who want to massacre us all.
I have heard that Ukraine is a crazy fascist state. This seems to support that.
Of course no, what the hell are you talking about?
Ukraine is last bastion of democracy against the invading orcs who want to destroy the whole world!
We are all happy to be treated as Zelensky's hostages and slaves, not being able to leave the country and each day having a chance of being violently kidnapped off the streets and then sent to die on the frontlines or get tortured by our officers are only minor inconveniences.
OP doesn't ask for "unmoderated" instance though, they are explicitly asking for an instance that "takes moderation seriously". Moderation is absolutely not the same thing as censorship.
Yeah yeah, "if we don't kill you then Russia will". Heard that one too many times from the good guys as well :)
Yet nobody was able to show me how people were wiped out in the liberated territories (Crimea, Melitopol, etc.), how millions of us living in Russia were wiped out, etc.
Again, you don't get to make a surprised pikachu face when you are literally telling people whom you are trying to kill that they are Russian bots.
How can anyone in good faith support Zelensky, the bloodthirsty tyrant who turned my country into the biggest prison in the world where people are kidnapped off the streets, beaten, forced into vans and then sent to die in a meatgronder?
That's a rhetorical question of course, I've heard the answer[s] so many times already, basically some version of "it's a war so anything Zelensky does is absolutely normal/justifiable and it's OK if you, your family and basically everyone you know dies, no big deal. No human rights apply to you, now please go and die fighting for my geopolitical interests".
But you cannot make a surprised pikachu face after that and be shocked that people actually support the evil-evil Russia, which liberates people from the regime you support.
Thank you Mr. Zelensky for ensuring Ukraine stays free and independent country!
Shooting and droning people protesting against your rule and kidnappings lawful mobilization efforts is totally justified and democratic, because Ukraine is fighting for its survival and everybody who disagrees is an enemy of the free world and definitely deserves to be shot and droned!
had wartime conscription, and 2) executed deserters
Neither of that is what I asked you for (come on, you even quoted my reply in you reply - "massive campaign of kidnappings happening to people forbidden from leaving the country", and then you proceeded to give an example of a completely different thing (also awful, but completely different)).
Okay, then surely you can show me a shittone of examples of such a massive campaign of kidnappings happening to people forbidden from leaving the country because they are needed as cannon fodder that happened in modern history (let's say last two centuries)?
Both are effectively the same thing, a citizen pressed into service, against their will.
So "you cannot leave the country and will be kidnapped and forced to die a horrible death on the front lines" is the same as "you can freely leave the country but if you don't you will have to do forced labour in military uniform for a year".
I can see I'm not going to succeed in changing your mind.
You are trying to tell me that it's good (or at least justifiable/normal) that Zelensky wants to murder me, my friends my family and several million other people who happened to be born in Ukraine. Obviously you are not going to change my mind :/
Maybe look some stuff up. Especially when it comes to conditions in russia
What stuff are you suggesting me to loop up? While I personally never visited Russia, I have close friends from Russia, several others who visited it, so I know from "first-hand" sources what's it like there.. (More or less the same shithole as Ukraine, but without kidnapping and with ability to leave)
That's literally what conscription means in legal terms
No. Conscription is you get summons and have to do military service (which is also totally wrong but a different thing). If you refuse you get sent to jail. You can simply leave the country if you don't like that.
What happens in Ukraine is kidnapping random people off the streets (who are forbidden from leaving the country), putting them into vans and sensing them to die.
I said "countries that are considered "good" and "democratic"" by the west. Does Cuba fit that definition now?
"Conscription" - that's not what am I talking about though. Conscription (which is also absolutely wrong of course) is indeed present in a lot of countries. Mass kidnappings of cannon fodder that is not allowed to leave is quite unique to Zelensky's regime.
That guy, whoever he is, must be a Russian agent spreading their misinformation!