This, but OP, I think, pointed to the issue maybe without realizing it:
If you feel you are just a.cog in a capitalist machine and not a citizen of a country, why would you celebrate?
It feels like Fox news and all the wedge issues have done their work and destroyed our sense of collective citizenship. Now the GOP is doing their corporate owners' bidding.
Seems like it would affect me, at least, a lot less if people stopped sharing their constant bullshit here.
And before you tell me to block y'all, don't worry, I will if this keeps showing up in /all for me. I am just giving you a heads up that whatever you are trying to accomplish, this is where you're at.
You claimed that unless there are alternatives with no drawbacks that we are doomed to this in industrialized societies.
I disagree.
When the drawback of plastic is that it is toxic to our health, it seems like all sorts of things we used to use should be back on the table, just for starters, drawbacks and all.
Trust gamers to overreact and ruin things instead of being reasonable and finding a way forward that would benefit everyone, including the maintainers doing the thankless work of managing these distributions.
Just wanna pop in real quick and point out we didn't have plastic in the food production pipline at all for about 9,900 years out of the last 10,000-ish.
We absolutely could eliminate plastic if we had the will. Literally 99% of our history or more has been without plastic.
The sooner you realize you, me, and the other person are all on the same team, the sooner you will start to be able to change minds.
The person you're talking to probably knows all about corporate media and its influence. Just like you probably know a bunch about state run media and its influence.
What is the change in the percentage of earth's surface being farmed over that time?
I am skeptical that we are using enough more land to account for this.
Climate and chemicals seem more likely to me, but your idea is interesting if there is data to back it up.