Chinese college gives Harvard international students "unconditional offers"
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Parent in this case means relative. It's an Asian societal thing, nothing can happen without an agreement with the family as the family unit is more important than the individual. This is actually a thing in Japan as well.
So, you might be thinking couldn't I just fake it. And the answer is yes and happens all the time. Here's a Times article on it. It's some what biased since it's an American paper, but it has the issues fairly correct. The problem is calling it the black market isn't exactly correct. It's usually forged documents pretending that you have family consent.
https://time.com/6261675/china-transgender-hormones-black-market/
Of course, if you actually are alone and have no family, then you don't need approval. However, that doesn't really happen in China as they find your relatives for you, it's actually what the police stations around the world are actually about. It's a way for overseas Chinese to find familial contacts so they can proceed with whatever documentation they want.
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Actually, hilariously if you get into a civil union with your boyfriend, they can act as consent for your trans gender therapy. So in that situation if you've already found a partner it's totally fine and everyone gets whatever they want. This is actually part of a way China promotes marriages in order to try to get that birth rate up. It just happens they don't have laws for gay people so it just default applies.
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If you're now also thinking couldn't they just get the grandparents to do it? The answer is also yes. In fact, like 50% of Chinese dramas are about literally this. The grandparents going over the parent's head and making decisions for their grandchildren. It's quite a big deal in China. And I'm not talking about LGBTQ+, it's literally every part of life. China isn't so much a nation of individuals as it's a nation of families and the families make all the decisions. It even leaks up to the political level. It's confusing, but it all makes more sense if you study Chinese culture. This is what guanxi is about. It's not exactly nepotism.
So good news on that, that's changing too. The courts find gender conversion therapy illegal, although there's no specific law against it. You can get gender affirming surgery as well as hormone therapy, though not all options. However, they do have a parental consent requirement. Though if you understand Chinese culture, that makes a lot more sense than if you do not. Like I said, with everything in China, not terrible, not great.
Uh, you can have a civil union in China if your gay. They also have tons of what they call boy love movies. Additionally, there's gay bars in every major city in China. In fact, Chengdu is known as the gay capital of China.
The issues are they do have are, you can't show kissing in those movies and they don't allow parades anymore. Also, no legal protections for discrimination, though all discrimination laws apply. So while you can't say they fired you because your gay, you still have protections that they can't randomly fire you without cause and being gay isn't a cause.
Here's an article about what I am talking about.
Not terrible, also, not great. That kind of described China as a whole though so take that how you will.
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Here's a list of boy love films if your interested.
https://trakt.tv/users/133dle/lists/rainbow-cn-china-boys-love-bl-gay?sort=released%2Casc
Surprisingly they're more popular with women as opposed to men. Not entirely sure why.
Uh shouldn't the US one have Canada and Denmark flags pointed at it? I mean, USA is threatening war on them.
I'm a bit confused. Are you saying lots of Europeans are saying they stand with China besides the far right?
And was proven to work by China as that's literally what they did. But I think the fear of looking like they side with China is making them not do it. The taboo of standing with China is that taboo amongst western nations that they would sacrifice their health and wealth to not do it.
This is the problems with western thinking. Everything has to do with the west. Everything China does apparently is because of the west, or in this case USA. This has nothing to do with the west or USA. It also doesn't really have all that much to do with humanity either. As many have noted, China cares about China. Since they care about China, it's in their best interest to fund something like the WHO in order to prevent diseases spreading as that can obviously effect China. Diseases don't care about borders.
It's the same reason China cares about green tech. Sure it helps humanity, but it's mostly to save China for the future Chinese. If the side effect is the world gets cleaner, all the better. Of course the west twists it as China is developing green tech to have a monopoly on green tech. Hey, if you can do better, do it. Otherwise you're literally burning down the world because China does it better.
Thanks, honestly it was kind of nice writing it all out. I guess in some ways I've been bottling my feelings about all of this.
This is very true. I had a cat that recently passed away at 17. While I've had cats my entire life, none had an attachment like this one. It followed commands and would dote around me like a dog. He would even get upset if I gave other cats more attention than him. So naturally we bonded more since it was easier to bond with this cat as he sought attention. So there was a cycle of him paying attention to me so I paid attention to him. Now I want to be clear, my other cats also loved me very much, but this was different.
So when it was his time, it was one of the saddest things I ever experienced. Other cats when they passed away would try to hide, apparently this is a natural instinct to protect their families from disease and predators when they leave a corpse. But not this cat. All he wanted was to be by my side as he was passing away. It was clear he knew and would meow when he couldn't find me, which was largely because he couldn't really move since he was dying. When the vet came to put him down, his last action was to look around the room to make sure the whole family was there, then he rested his head and waited for his end. That was heart breaking. His love for me and our family was so great that he went against his own base instincts, I have never seen that before.
Your either intentionally missing the point or really do not understand what I am saying. This isn't political, or economical for China. It's not about trade or power. It's simply China keeping it's promise that it cannot make any unilateral decisions unless China is directly involved.
So your options are either China stays neutral or China takes a stand on a conflict they are not a party to, which literally makes them follow in the footsteps of USA.
Yes China would, but let's use Nazis as an example. Unlike the devastation Nazis were causing Europe, Nazis protected 250,000 Chinese citizens.
https://allthatsinteresting.com/john-rabe-alexander-von-falkenhausen
Thus, China learned from this. It's not for China to decide who is right and who is wrong. Neutral is neutral. As China always says, China is not a party to this conflict.
ha ha ha ha you got nothing, got it.
Yes exactly, China banned drones for Ukraine AND Russia. Neutral is neutral. As I asked others before, would you like China to stop all the aid to Palestine?
You think you have a gotcha, but you're actually about to unveil a very hard truth of why China is always neutral. Yes, China would trade with the Nazis, or more accurately did. And in return, they protected 250,000 Chinese from the Japanese.
https://allthatsinteresting.com/john-rabe-alexander-von-falkenhausen
One nations opponent is not another nations. It's not for China to decide who is right or wrong. Thus as China always says, China is not a party to this conflict.
Oh ho you almost got me. Crimea wasn't attacked much. So not much reconstruction necessary. But guess where those Chinese construction crews are? That's right the Donbas.
China's not angry, they're just clarifying. The agreement on the tariffs after April 2nd were reduced to 10% on both sides. Additionally, for the fentanyl tariffs, China has other countermeasures in place that will be removed if the fentanyl tariffs are removed. How are people reading this as if China is angry. Why would China be angry about something they agreed to?
Actually it's not for China. That was China's promise to the world. No matter what happens as long as you don't block trade from me China will trade with you. They even do this with Taiwan, and believe me, China always keeps it's word.
There are countries accused of all sorts of things, yet China will never stop trading. Russia, Iran, North Korea, Belarus, Serbia, Egypt, I could go on. What does this say to BRICS nations if China picked a side. They're trapped by their own promise. But it's one that keeps them consistent regardless of how the world turns.
You got nothing, noted.
China is investing in Crimea, yes.
https://worldcrunch.com/world-affairs/chinese-investment-in-crimea-is-political-backing-for-russia/
*Edit. like how your trying to find inconsistencies in Chinese policy. The best part about China is they are always consistent. So I knew the answer to your question before even looking it up with no prior research.
*Edit 2. I also love how the west is saying the same thing your saying. It's political, it makes China look bad. Take my side China sempai
Whooo boy that's a tough topic. So I'm sure what you're realizing is that LGBTQ+ issues in China isn't a government thing. The government doesn't care. The families though, oh god, I mean if we're going to say there's oppression in China, it's from the families. IF you're lucky and have a good family, great. If you're not, no one will help you.
So, of course your best bet is to find extended family that accepts you. This is how there's a thriving LGBTQ+ community in China. And leads to all the things I was talking about where grandparents over rule parents, but it can also be aunts or other family members. OR and importantly OR because of how guanxi works, you can also find groups of like minded friends who take you in and help you get past these things.
I'm not here to tell you it's a great system or it works well. Abuse IS a huge problem there. However, in the western mind it's all tied to an oppressive government, it's actually not. It's a deep cultural issue that is only recently coming to light, and frankly if I'm honest it will get buried just as quickly with a few more rights for people, such as gay civil unions. It's how China listens to the voice of the people. I know this is confusing, in the west people think of the voice of the people as a direct voice such as democracy. In China it's complicated. In a weird way, everyone in China is free to do whatever they want, as long as you have the guanxi to back it.
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I feel like I should add this has been the way the Chinese government has done things since imperial times. China isn't communist, a better way of looking at them is they've returned to imperial China. It's bad in many ways as you've noticed, parental abuse is an insanely huge problem there. On the other hand, it's how they handle the rich getting too rich. It doesn't matter how rich you are if you've destroyed all your guanxi, as Elon Musk is discovering.