I'll add that I've seen that particular admin elsewhere and they didn't seem particularly off. In fact here they're just concerned about attracting paedophiles which isn't exactly a bad precaution. But that instance really has very little of substance or value going by their communities.
If the issue is that old school atheists kept their mouths shut, while new atheists are out and proud, you and I are not going to see eye to eye.
If you think 'new' means modern, as in present day, then you've been arguing with me for hours for no reason. Because 'new atheism' refers to a specific movement, around the 2010s. It's not simply 'atheism' now.
I don't care about shouty atheists or quiet atheists, it literally doesn't matter to me. I am wary of people congregating around easy targets like broadly religious people, when religious people can mean anybody. It can be a white supremacist American, or it could be a Yemeni Muslim getting genocided by Saudis using American and UK bombs. And I don't see that very important distinction made when those low iq anti-theist posts are spammed on c/all.
You appear to be somewhat progressive from your other comments, but you have a wierd blindspot when it comes to religion. You apparently defend black people but don't realise that minority religious groups can and often have been racialised and attacked in similar ways to how a minority group would be. This is strange behaviour.
It's like you're proud of being ignorant of history.
When I say easily avoided I mean that I literally don't see them very often. Whereas new atheism seems to be seeping into the feed wierdly often.
This reminds of when people go to toxic subs on the old place, to shit on fat people or something. The end result of these low iq hateful subs is that you grow a base of angry, preaching anti intellectuals who think they're right and who are ripe for a right wıng bot army and bad actors to brainwash them, and ultimately afflict cancer on the space.
Japanese women are not particularly free compared to similar wealthy nations.
But you are forgetting history - those countries had their own brands of capitalist expansionism within living memory. They both had periods of time pre-World Wars where they homogenised themselves: Germany formed a nation state out of smaller states and kingdoms, while Japan did similarly, as well as forcefully assimilating it's Ainu ethnic minority groups. As a result of this, a powerful centralised state was able to direct the development of the economy as well as their respective society. Initially fascists exploited this. Then as the US, Soviets and other Western powers repudiated them, they were made to adopt the liberal capitalist model that they'd been on the path towards pre-World Wars.
The Middle East on the other hand has been under the boot of european puppet masters. Iran's democratic PM was couped (1953), in Afghanistan the Taliban was funded by the US against a secular progressive leader, and in Saudi Arabia, their royal family were puppets for Europeans (UK) and for decades now, the US.
But I am seeing 2010 style cringe new atheism though. It's never a good sign when those people are around, they were the precursors to the cancer we see on the big platforms today.
Pathetic of you to hide behind concern for women's rights when you don't acknowledge that we, the wealthiest countries have routinely worked against democratic, secular and relatively feminist and progressive elements in the Muslim world, as I say above and to which I referred to as anti-intellectualism.
Did we bring feminism and human rights to Libya when we democratized it with bombs and left it with slave markets for Africans? Maybe people like you and I should speak with some humility?
The UK for e.g. has less religion than ever, and it's been turned into a shithole in many respects - Victorian diseases are back, a third of children lack food and they've had a decade of lost economic growth.
If you think your brand of atheism goes hand in hand with progress, you are equally as foolish as those people that thought liberal capitalism ensured democratic progress.
If you're left wing, it's a pretty good space. I don't see left wingers complaining to be honest.
The only evidenced complaint about censorship of criticism of China, was full of misleading bs that deserved to be removed to keep the community free of cancer. I'd have made an account there first, but they weren't allowing registrations at the time Sync for Lemmy went down which is when and why I came here.
I saw some new-atheist style anti-mulsim racist trans women online the other day.
Given how men are more likely to be openly racist online, I've been waiting for the honeymoon phase of liberal type trans activism to taper off, much like how you can find many right wing LGB people online today, but as this post suggests, they're mostly liberal for now.
I'm not sure what pleasure you get from telling e.g. women that magic isn't real, that astrology is bs, and that crystals are only pretty and don't have special powers. If I were such an unfulfilled person, I'd resolve to get another hobby. Possibly environmentalism or something.
And I'm talking about people that are specifically chauvistic for a hobby and anti-intellectual. I'm not talking about the average normal person that dislikes Catholics or some other misogynistic elements of religion.
People like us in the wealthiest nations have no right to criticise Muslims as a group (if that's even legitimate criticism, it isn't) when we prop up the worst Muslims (Saudis and other Arabs) and have always worked against democratic, secular and relatively feminist and progressive elements in the Muslim world.
Your snide anti-intellectual new atheism is a cover for general snobbery and possibly a barely concealed racialised Islamophobia.
Faith is apparently on the rise (~84% of the world), and whether you like them or not they have to be worked with. Their culture and ideas will inform society whether we like it or not. By blinkering ourselves you'll allow the worst opportunists to take advantage of both them and your ignorant selves.
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It's just overt 196phobia, whom I assumed they mostly comprise.