T(rule)kies

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- No it's an insult for red fascists
  
  Explaining a meaningless insult using another one kind of just proves his point
- lolno
- at what level of desperation do you have to be that you look at totalitarian states and decide they're the forefront of leftism in the world, instead of just like, admitting they didn't work and trying to avoid the mistakes they made? seriously, why? in an ideology and belief system heavily entrenched in nuance why do you view the world in black and white? why is it being a "lib" to say that governments who repress the human rights and civil liberties of minorities are not practicing leftism in good faith? the same governments who have horrifically and violently crushed workers rights movements? who have enforced crippling wealth inequality in their own borders? do you even know what leftism is?
- What would you call the position that defends authoritarian communism even to the point of justifying genocide and brutal suppression of opposition and free press?
  
  Some kind of ultra-leftism maybe?
  I don’t support justifying genocide. Since you’re probably talking about Xinjiang though, do you think the US actually cares about Muslims in China considering its actions in the Middle East?
- @lemmybrucelee @lobsterteapot Go back to lemmygrad bootlicker
- I thought it meant the crazy liberals who want a communist utopia where no one works. The ones that specifically are so deranged they useally ban any discussion that's against their ideology.
  
  I don't think that it's accurate to call tankies liberals.
  A lot of this gets thought of on a left-right spectrum, but it's really more like a compass, with economics being left-right, and authoritarian/antiauthoritarian being top-bottom. Liberals in the US would be slightly left of center on the economic spectrum, but largely centrist on the authoritarianism spectrum. Tankies would be far left on the economic spectrum, but at the top of the authoritarian spectrum. Libertarians (or, what gets called libertarian now) would be at the extreme right on the economic spectrum, but at the very bottom of the authoritarianism spectrum. (The most modern libertarians are not actually anti-authoritarian, although they claim to be. E.g., many of them oppose abortion rights.)
  
  Tankies are the ones who think you need a strong state (read authoritarian) to enforce communism.
  They support the use of literal tanks to crush any rebellion or uprising against the authoritarian communist state, and then deny that it happened at all.
  The term was coined when the soviets crushed the Hungarian rebellion of 1956 (local communists didn't want to be under soviet rule, soviets sent in tanks) The original tankies supported the soviets
  Then there's Tiananmen Square, the CCP crushed protesters with tanks until fire hoses could wash the sludge down into the sewers, Tankies claim it was justified, when they acknowledge that it happened at all.
  Tankies deny the ongoing genocide of the Uyghurs. Or claim that china is only detaining "rebels".
  And finally, tankies tend to be pro-Russia, even though it stopped pretending to be communist in the 90s. The tankies tend to be anti-Ukraine in this conflict.
  Another aspect is the 100% denial of any western media or released intelligence, because it's all evil capitalist propaganda.
  Basically these types of Tankies have picked up a history book, seen the overwhelming evil that the western powers have propagated and decided that anyone who stands against the western powers must be good. Which is stupid as fuck.
  The world isn't black and white, it's not good vs evil, it's varying shades of greed and evil vs other shades of greed and evil. Tankies tend to not understand this simple truth.