important rulepost

Also, "anything negative about a communist country is US propaganda"

Should probably listen to Blowback Season 3.

Not to say they're a perfect country but to pretend that anyone in the West can critique them when their material conditions are dictated by the actions of the West is just comical.

If you aren't a materialist, what are you even doing? As if history happens in the realm of pure thought.....

Mostly True, while (at least in my part of the world) there are a lot of people who like red flags but fight against hierarchies.

The US is rife with issues, but the hardships experienced by the average western citizen doesn’t even compare to the suffering that you would find in, say, Pol Pot’s Cambodia

I have some fellas from Detroit that would disagree.

1. Im not from USA, and from my point of view its mich worse than most other countries (no healthcare, no independend courts, murder sprees in schools nearly every day, opression of half of the world (a half of them just to get more oil to destroy the planet faster), one of 3 of the biggest war-pushers in whole earth, polutes and destroys earth mode than every other country per citizens, etc. PP.)
2. capitalism mostly opresses and profits from people out of the country to Funktion. if its Bad in Venezuela or Cuba or Afghanistan, or even early russia, thats at least partly fault of US.
3. Venezuela is not communism, China isnt, russia isnt. Most of them have failed, at least partly because caputalist societys atack them and stop a as soon as they are born and they can't form a stable democracy. Before reading Marx, your bashing of communism isnt worth anything, as you clearly don't understand what you are talking about. We never had communism, and some would say not even socialism. You sound like you don't even know the difference, since you keep talking about communism, which is a utopian society after humanity has stopped a lot of bad habits and has learned to live without working against each other in competition and working together instead, which arises maybe after generations of workig socialism, which we clearly didn't have.

4.you exactly prove my point. I dont agree with tankies either, but the number of people around here blindly copying capitalist propaganda while understanding nothing they bash about is too damm high.

Capitalism has killed orders of magnitude more than communism.

Hiiii :33 howru

But what if I'm not an anarchist? I like Marx but not Lenin, so I can't be an ML either.

Is being a good tactician and being a genocidal, totalitarian extremist an oil and water situation?

He can be both.

Saw Gerrera is an extremist and must be brought to justice for the good of the Empire.

Isn't "authoritarian communist" kind of an oxymoron? 😂 like the whole point of communism is that there isn't a ruling class. I guess Russia and China were never really communist, just statist authoritarian right? I mean, the Nazis called themselves Socialist. They were nowhere near that

Stalin

Certain aspects of Stalin? Or in general?

oh ok so bhreznevites

Thanks, that was very helpful.

Now, can you explain the 196 reference for me?

So, people who love North Korea, or defend russia invading Ukraine, people, who stand by even the most autoritarian, anti-democratic, militaristic, imperialistic regimes - just because they call themselves “socialist” or “communist” - are “Tankies”.

Would be good to point out these people you are mentioning are not all the same.

There are people that Are critical of Russia, but don't buy from western propaganda and are being called tankies too.

It is more like, if one dare to question the western narrative = tankie.

Spez and Unidan made reddit and no-one likes them either

Libs use it that way, actual leftists use it to describe fascists that think they're on the left and like red flags.

Which makes them no different from the western imperialists they hate so much.

I think a better term is "Campist" which is the trend within revisionist marxists to side with one imperialist camp to oppose another. it's the same shit the SPD did during WW1

what is "authoritarianism" to you?

There's a lot of abstractions in that link but I think the following action is a meaningful distinction to call out:

The term is also used to describe people who endorse, defend, or deny the crimes committed by communist leaders such as Vladimir Lenin,[7][8] Joseph Stalin, Mao Zedong, Pol Pot, and Kim il-Sung.

I mean there is a word for that that's less derogatory: Stalinist

Concrete views like the idea that the government being able to jail dissenters at will is bad? That unlimited state power inevitably leads to authoritarianism? That labeling yourself socialist doesn't necessarily mean you're actually a socialist state?

You're so insufferably cocksure in your positions everywhere else, but when someone honestly asks what a tankie is, you just get defensive and can't master up the courage to just say what it is that you stand for? I really get the impression that you're just here to stir up shit.

undefined> he political state, and with it political authority, will disappear as a result of the coming social revolution

I think the history has shown this to be false

uh oh you said the forbidden word, here come several of the world's most unfuckable people to tell you about how anti authoritarians are the real fascists and if you'd just spend half a year fully immersing yourself in russian state propaganda, you'd get it too.