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Dress for the job
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Looks like they both might be genetically predisposed to myopia. Not very elite of them.
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Glasses make me look weak. They're like a wheelchair for the eyes.
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Love me some VEEP.
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I always was on the "nerd" side at school but boy do those faces look punchable.
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Myopia seems to be far more of a childhood environment thing than a genetic thing. For a long time it was thought to be from too much close viewing (reading books, sitting short distances from screens), but more recent research suggests it is more from lack of sun exposure. UV light prompts the formation of dopamine, and higher dopamine levels in the eyeball are required for it to maintain the optimal round shape as it grows.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simone_and_Malcolm_Collins
Well that's just a fucking trip of dysfunction.
Just that bit is a lot.
If the population declined and it makes the economy do less well, won't people just have more children like they did the last time the economy was in that state? Every environment has a carrying capacity for the creatures that live in it. It's not uncommon to see fluctuations above and below that equilibrium point.
Instead of pushing people to ignore the factors that cause the limit in humans, like not wanting or needing more children, maybe find a way to organize society so hitting that limit doesn't cause massive problems, or try to eliminate some of the factors creating the limit. It's insanely difficult in our society to have even one child who's healthy, cared for, and prepared for their adult life while also being personally healthy, prepared for old age, and enjoying the variety of pleasures of existence.-
I just read their wiki page and it is absolutely filled to the brim with crazy wacky shit.
The Collinses do not support transgender health care for youth, but express acceptance for people whom Simone described as "legit trans" as opposed to those who fall into the "trans cult." Simone opposes allowing transgender students to use bathrooms corresponding to their gender identity and to play on sports teams matching their gender identity.
As a trans woman, this stood out to me. I'm not surprised that they are transphobic, but why make the point about "legit trans" and "trans cult?" I assume they consider "legit trans" to be the tiny percentage of transgender people who are right-wing nuts and the "trans cult" are those who aren't. Basically they're just saying "We only support transgender people who want their faces eaten" which is a strange way of phrasing it since usually transphobes tell all of us to go fuck ourselves, including the dumb ones that support the leopards.
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It's probably more like they can't deny the reality of trans people, but they think that it's a very tiny minority and the rest are just cultists.
You see this same fallacy with autism. Why are there "suddenly" more autistic kids? It isn't because vaccines are giving them autism or something like that. It's because doctors know what to look for to diagnose now.
People fall into this same trap with trans people, because 20 years ago it was extremely rare to meet an out trans person. So, now it looks like they're suddenly everywhere! What could be the cause? A trans cult recruiting people?!
No, it's a cultural shift. Damn, people can be stupid sometimes.
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Bla bla managing director bla bla Investor Peter Thiel. OK, I've read enough. Yet another Thiel apprentices.
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Absolutely adore this bit from the screenshot:
which is based on Simone's personal observations of lions and tigers on a safari trip.
Sad we have no studies on human children. But thankfully its perfectly reasonable for someone on holiday who's untrained in interpreting big cat behavior to decide whats good for a bunch of animals is good for human kids too.
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I let my children eat trash out of dumpsters. I determined it was a good idea after personally observing raccoons while on a park trip.
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Ironic that they claim all of their decisions are backed by data, but still employ corporal punishment. That's something that had been quite definitively demonstrated to be far less effective than other measures.
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Thank you! I was literally just thinking that.
I also can't let go of how they say every decision is backed "by data." But then what is their data source for using corporal punishment? "I saw lions and tigers use it."
So they think "anecdotes" are the same as "data"? AND that wild predator behaviors are suitable role models for human behaviors? Oh. Oh dear. Oh no.
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Because they like the idea of supporting data but not the reality
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Having worked in public policy for several years, the 26-year-old Londoner had come to an alarming realisation about the future of the UK, the world – and the human species.
She's 26?
What is "several" defined as here? 2? 3?
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Maybe it's like 1.05 years, but that round up
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That reminds me of when my 5 year old nephew started telling me a story by going, "Back when I was a little boy..."
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It appears she was 26 when Malcolm proposed on reddit in 2013. She was born 1987, and he 1986.
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No, I think that's talking about Aria Babu, a person from London who's changed the focus of her career to become a "pronatalist". The woman in the photos is Simone Collins, and I haven't read about her age. I'm usually the kind that reads the whole articles on links but I could only bring myself to skim through this lunacy.
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From the picture, she looks old enough to be his mother. He looks like he's barely started shaving, and she looks like she's desperately trying to appear under 40.
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You seem to have the same problem I do. 🤭 it turns out several is kind of a fucking useless term, meaning more than two but fewer than many in number or kind. So...it's defined by a bunch of nonsense-fluff numbers.
Several cannot mean two...but several can be 3. My sister called me to deal with "several" whatevers, I came over & there were 3 whatevers (can't remember what it was), and I was like what the hell, sister, you said several & looked it up. Several sounds like 7, but it can mean 3 to idk, 9. It's stupid.
For 3, most people would describe that quantity as "a few".
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The Collinses refuse to give their daughters traditionally feminine names, because they believe social research shows that women with feminine names are taken less seriously
Their daughters are named Titan Invictus and Industry Americus.
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That might even be true, but you know what names will be taken even less seriously? Titan Invictus and Industry Americus. 😂 Freaks creating freaks.
Invictus & Americus as standalone wouldn't be the worst names, but Titan & Industry? For women? Those "names" sound rough as sandpaper. These people are so book-smart, and without friends/contacts to keep them in touch with reality, they've become kinda dumb & fallen prey to delusions of grandeur.
Wiki on this couple is an amusing, terrifying, and short read. I was wondering what they do for work, what their contribution to the world is. The answer....not much... "Venture capitalism", so basically they're money farmers investing money to make money. A necessary role, but not directly producing anything themselves. And tech MGMT, again, probably not directly producing many works but cracking the whip & supervising other people doing work. Color me not impressed.
They claim they're not eugenicists, conflating eugenics with racism. Which simply isn't true, what a stupid thing to say. They are eugenicists, they actively screen & sort embryos, pursuing the best results. That is eugenics, and there's nothing particularly wrong with that. Very practical.
Both are the products of failed relationships, the man a classic failed marriage, the other a failed polyamorous marriage in Japan. They married after a proposal...over Reddit. Jesus Christ, am I on drugs? Is this real?
"Do you spank your kids?" "Oh, heavens no, how barbaric. Inspired by tigers in the wild, I slap my kids across the face. 😇" Lol!! Wth. 🙃 These kids will likely be mental trainwrecks (just like their parents) if they don't straight-up commit suicide.
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As someone who grew up in a failed marriage sometimes I feel like it was a minor achievement for me to have a happy romantic life, but then I see people who look at how fucked up their parents were and say "hold my beer"
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they could easily be Fallout characters lol. I am all into science and shit but Titan Invictus for god's sake? This is why we need parenting licenses to prevent people like these ruining childhoods.
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I had hoped that was an onion link
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Industry Americus
That's the grossest name I've ever heard. Look, I'm not even getting into the "Americus" part. Sure, that is... well, it's not a name I would've picked. But more importantly, it follows the word Industry, and whether alone or paired to American industries specifically, the images conjured up from that word are far from pleasant.
I picture smoke stacks belching into smoggy, yellow skies. I see poisoned streams flowing through dying ecosystems. I see tired workers being overworked and exploited.
What a great name for a cute little baby to be burdened with.
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Haha you're hillari...oh shit.
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That shit sounds like 4channers that got too much money, it's beyond stupid
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Sound like warlord-class, to me
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Yeah, this is sad. These are people in dire need of mental health care and they're not getting it because their narcissism is in the way.
We should make it so that when someone is too narcissistic that they need mental help, that we can force them. Their poor daughters will now have to live with this shit and become just like them and the cycle continues
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breeding to save mankind from what, round heads and good eyesight?
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They want to bring back the Habsburg chin.
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This couple and really anyone who learned about evolution by watching Idiocracy: if intelligent parents are needed to make intelligent babies, from where did intelligence first arise?
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Two fishes fucked and made a deformed fish that liked air more than water. And now I have to "clean the garage" and "not eat all the cheese its". Fucking ass hole parent fish.
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Heavy natural selection pressures. Don't worry, we'll see those again in a couple decades.
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Broke: Higher calorie consumption, low stress environments, abundant free time, institutionalized and publicly funded education systems.
Woke: Generations of cracking open one another's skulls to feast on the gooey goodness inside until only the largest and most succulent heads remain.
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Not intelligent enough for this question.
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The Collinses married after Malcolm proposed on Reddit in 2013.
Out of all the nuttiness of their Wikipedia page, that one stood out to me.
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Holy shit is America in for a surprise when the influencers catch up to the European glasses thing
We've got fucking bellends walking around like they smashed their faces into a couple of CRT monitors
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I'm European and have never seen that, got any examples? And I'm wondering if you're talking about only the frames or the lenses too? If you've got really bad vision you have no choice, and the thicker the lenses the fewer kinds of frames are available. Contact lenses don't work well for many and there are several reasons why surgery might not be a choice.
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What are you on about.? Can you show a picture.
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Yeah as someone who can't wear contacts and won't do LASIK
Fuck big ass glasses they ain't cool if they aren't gonna protect you in a workshop
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We seem to have some sort of natural immunity to that. Whether for good or ill, only time will tell.
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And two more incestuous generations later you end with something like Elon Musk.
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elite but still need glasses huh?
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I’m pretty 1337, but can’t see shit without my glasses.
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That e-1337, not elite.
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They're rich enough for LASIK, so maybe they just don't want to see each other's details while having sex.
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The conceit and egotism of these people is laughable.
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Is a complete lack of self awareness heritable? Are they going to breed a race of super clueless whities with bad eyesight?
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Those inverted commas around 'elite' are doing so much work they should probably unionise.
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It's like they saw that scene in Idiocracy and took it literally
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They literally did
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Mike Judge and his corrosive effect on the psyches of GenX will be the death blow for the nation.
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I love the idea it's all Mike Judges fault...
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I actually quite like the idea that Humanity will survive as a result of these weird cunts and their breeding programme; but only as a race of subterranean mole people with too poor eyesight for the surface world.
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We need miners that can work without light since the power is needed for generative AI.
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No, you're thinking of the Morlocks. These idiots will obviously be the Elois.
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Nice, the ubermensch is back
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And they look like they've spent a lot of time inside a locker.
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You could tell me that's Charlie Kirk with his mom and I'd believe you.
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Face is way too big to be him.
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They're breeding for different reasons.
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/c/BeholdTheMasterRace
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'elite' couple
Can't be bothered with seeing properly
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Yes! Produce more slaves for our overlords, or the world will end!
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They're producing exclusively Boss Babies
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HA HAHAHA HAAA HAHAHA and I can't stress this enough HAAAAAAA
But also, aren't these just autistic people? Of the type we used to call Aspergers?
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They are highly atypical & their marriage is the result of a proposal over Reddit back in 2013. Wiki is wild.
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Atheists with divinely inspired scripture? Wow. OK everything there is concerning. These people seem like they need to touch grass and do something normal and weird like community theater instead of whatever bullshit they're on
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In this moment, I am euphoric. Not because of any phony gods blessing but because I managed to find someone as insufferable as I am.
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Hah I have 4 of my own and they are fucking feral, so good luck offsetting that, dorks!
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I think you missed the point where they want more of the "right people" whatever that means. They think they can outbreed everyone else and win by having the most right people. See just about every major religion as a case study for this.
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I feel like proper eugenics was pretty soundly debunked as people are more complicated than peas. I think that the only thing you can reliably predict is race.
And these people look like that Nazi from Raiders of The Lost Ark.
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It was never soundly debunked in theory. We are animals and like all animals our offspring inherit traits from us. Hypothetically if you could agree on what "good traits" looks like you could selectively breed people based on those traits and get people who are more likely than average to have those traits. Keep doing it for generations upon generations and you'd get people optimized for those traits. Even without knowing what gene or genes are responsible.
The problem is that we're notoriously bad at deciding what is and is not in the set of "good traits" and tend to pick stupid shit like "being Aryan/white." Also forced/restricted breeding is unethical at best, and fucking monstrous on average. It's one of those things that goes in the bin of "it would probably work, but if we start doing it we've already become the villains".
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There are 8 billion people in this world, and it will continue to grow until there are about 10 billion of us here. The world is dying because each of us takes too much, gives back too little and frankly, there are about 3 billion too many of us. The world is dying because there are too many humans AND THESE FUCKERS ARE SCARED THST BIRTH DECLINE WILL BE AN ISSUE? They actually advocate for more humans because if we don't, cultures will somehow disappear? Economies will collapse?
You know what will collapse all economies, soon enough? Climate change. It will fuck all and everything. There is a realistic chance that within a few decades tops, this "the world still generates enough food to feed everyone twice over, it's just that we keep throwing away most of the food over actually making sure it gets to the hungry"will turn into "the world can only generate enough food to feed about 5 billion or less of us".
How do you think your precious economy will respond to the ensuing wars and everything?
Why is it that even mentally deficient idiots like this can become "leaders" whilst actually smart people have to sit in the sidelines?
Oh yeah, sheer narcissism and psychopathy. They get you to the top of the food chain.
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there are about 3 billion too many of us.
Even with modern agriculture at scale, the minimal-negative-impact, full-carrying-capacity population for a 100% vegan population would be 2B. With vegetarianism, 1,5B. With typical omnivory, on-par with American diets, 700M.
We are so fking far past overshoot that it’s not even funny. And the strain on the ecology is absolutely obvious for those with the eyes to see.
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Birth decline is a issue for the capitalist. Their scam depends on constant unending growth.
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Infinite growth in a finite system.
Plus, they need plenty of low-wage, grindingly poor, economically desperate workers to maximize their own obscene profits. Which is why so many of them have gone all alt-right, because that’s who is taking away reproductive rights in a desperate attempt to goose birth rates.
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Really going for the "stereotype of myself" look there.
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T'fuck is this about?
As if thousands of others aren't? Forget about the thousand other red flags, why even post this bullcrap?
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Dude can't even get a proper fitting suit or shirt. He looks like someone who had to borrow his outfit for court
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Please explain who the hell are these freaks, just read the wiki page
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I haven't read the article. Maybe they were just saying "more children are needed and we're doing our part". I'm not sure of this is really about them being arrogant. It could be either or.
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I haven't read the article
Maybe they were just saying
I'm not sure
It could be either or
If only there was a way to find the information you’re missing
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I have now read the article (which OP didn't link to), and it does indeed seem like this narrative was unfounded and I was right. I could not find any support for eugenics in the article, and the interviewees even spoke against it explicitly.
You should read the article yourself, it's actually quite insightful.
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You don't have to go out of your way to defend things that are putting a nice veneer on eugenics.
And for the record, if you read the article it's clearly about them being arrogant and generally absolutely fucking weird. "If more people like us don't have children, the world will stop seeing innovation and economic prosperity. It's very important that the right people reproduce."
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“If more people like us don’t have children, the world will stop seeing innovation and economic prosperity. It’s very important that the right people reproduce.”
I have now read the article, and what you just quoted is nowhere to be found. I would really like to know where you found the text you quoted.
In fact, neither the article nor the interviewees defended eugenics, at all. They even addressed the issue explicitly near the end of the text.
I'm not defending these people, or saying that they are saints, but there was no indication that they were supporting eugenics. To the contrary, they spoke against it.
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Oh hey looks like we found one of their Lemmy accounts if you are bending over that far backward to defend something you apparently have not even read about.
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