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Stance on conflict
Stance on conflict
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WAY too many reports. Locking down.
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Lemmy: bOth PArTiES ARE zIoniSt gEnociDERS!
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To hear the tankies on Lemmy:
OnLy DEmoCraTs aRe ZiOnisT GeNOCiderS! VotE fOr RepUBLicaNs!
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Jesus, I've had this argument recently. Pointless, they are just on some crusade.
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All these people are convinced that Trump would be worse for Palestinians.
And maybe they're right, maybe Trump will send in straight up death squads. Maybe he'll build vans that pipe the exhaust into the cargo area and ship them to tel Aviv. Maybe he'll start sending the Israelis Zyclon b.
But the fact remains. The last year has been the most deadly for Palestinians. Ever. More Palestinians have been killed in the last year than died during the formation of the state of Israel. More Palestinians have had their homes destroyed in the last year, then ever before in modern history.
At this point, saying Trump would be worse for Palestine is like saying that Himmler would have been worse for the Jews. Possibly technically correct, but also a poor attempted genocide denial.
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Trump feels the only thing Israel is doing wrong is not killing Palestinians fast enough.
https://apnews.com/article/trump-biden-israel-pr-hugh-hewitt-21faee332d95fec99652c112fbdcd35d
Worse, if Trump wins, he will bring the worst Israeli policies to the United States.
- He will take Israel's policy of illegally invading Lebanon as a "security zone" and apply it to Mexico:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_occupation_of_Southern_Lebanon
- He will set up internment camps in the United States for immigrants and others classed as "undesirable":
- He will purge the government of any and all opposition:
- He wants to arrest journalists:
https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/06/politics/kash-patel-trump-administration/index.html
To be clear here, if Harris does not win, Trump will. Those are your two choices. You can choose to vote for Harris or you court disaster. There is no viable 3rd choice.
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you realize trump genuinely considered using a nuclear bomb during his office term right?
What do you mean "he might be worse"
But the fact remains. The last year has been the most deadly for Palestinians. Ever.
also i feel like there was probably at least one famine that killed significantly more people at one point in history.
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Biden says the same stuff as Kamala...
I'm sure she'll handle it better than Biden, and absolutely better than trump would.
But I just don't think she'll do enough, which is disappointing because "enough" is just cutting off aid money and weapons sales until they stop actively committing a genocide.
If they need aid to defend against Lebanon or Iran in an actual war, maybe they should stop committing a genocide at the same time?
Really seems like if Israel was actually concerned with defense, they wouldn't spend so much time bombing refugees.
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I think the real talk is that she's a little better than Biden, but Biden is pretty bad. It's hard to say what she would be doing because i get the feeling she's holding back out of desire to not undermine Biden's policies. I'm not anticipating much change overall, though. Sadly, we're all left watching the genocide.
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I’m sure she’ll handle it better than Biden, and absolutely better than trump would.
Hoped that, but DNC killed that hope :(
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If you think there's even a chance of Kamala being as bad as Biden in this regard, you haven't been paying attention to just how bad Biden is with Israel.
He literally has no line, and has been publicly saying for 50 years absolutely nothing would ever make him lessen his support for Israel.
And he fucking means it.
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can you guys do me a favor real quick? I want to all google the word fascism, and do a little bit of precursory study into what the nazi fascist regime was like. Think about it for a few days.
And then come back and tell me that the democratic party is EQUAL to or WORSE than the republican party.
Trump literally fired chris krebs after he stated that the election was "the most secure in history" and then his personal attorney said he should "get taken out and shot at dawn"
he fired the guy heading the FBI over the russia election interference which he wasn't even found to be responsible for? Though a few of his campaign members were, and they were served with felony sentences for that one. He LITERALLY LIES ABOUT THIS ENTIRE THING REPEATEDLY.
literally all the democrats are doing is supporting a country who aligns with US values. That's objectively not fascism, and if you think it's fascism, you should probably consider not using the internet anymore. Maybe move to russia and see how "nice" it is over there.
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At the end of the day israel is openly fucking bombing humanitarian aid at this point and we all know neither is gonna stop them when elected. The ceasefire bullshit is getting as old as the „two state solution”
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At least you'll be able to protest without getting slaughtered ¯(ツ)/¯
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are they bombing humanitarian aid regularly now? I know that it happened at least once, with a few possible instances of it in total.
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Translation:
I will send Israel more bombs.
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America was locked into that in the Obama era. Israel gets massive amounts of aid.
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There is more than enough legal reason to justify stopping sales to Israel but the rules are not applied equally: https://www.npr.org/2024/03/26/1240857410/how-do-leahy-laws-apply-to-u-s-support-for-israel
So it seems like they choose not to and I'm not sure if there's a justification for that which isn't fucking atrocious
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But I thought bOtH sIdEs ArE jUsT aS bAd.
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Where are we supposed to deport American citizens to, exactly?
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At the time he was saying to Gaza. He was saying to take Americans citizens who disagree with murdering innocent's, and put them in the place the innocent's are being murdered. As if that somehow would teach them something... All it would do is murder the Americans.
Edit: it was another one of those times he was showing how anti America he was
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It's a classic dog whistle. He knows exactly what he's saying. He's just disguised it to appear so stupid that no one will hold him accountable for it.
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WISCONSIN.
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No please I'll be good
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Appreciate the effort but this has too many words for a braindead felon-supporting fascist.
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Has she promised to stop sending bombs?
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She promised to not stop.
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/harris-walz-hold-first-joint-network-tv-interview-cnn-2024-08-29/
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People selling weapons are supporting our party and don't want to have any pangs.
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If you want to make a “harm reduction” argument, don’t do it this dishonestly. You know this “heartbreaking” comment is nonsense because she has clearly said she won’t condition US support for Israel. As for “ceasefire,” she’s talking about a temporary pause, as proven by her previous “ceasefire” comment people appealed to. She does not believe in the self-determination of the Palestinian people nor a two-state solution, and to act like she does is to pure nonsense.
All you care about is words and appearances. Well, alright, where are Kamala’s words from the end of August spouting Oct. 7th atrocity propaganda and extolling Israel’s “right to defend itself”?
We get Trump’s stance on protestors, but not Kamala’s? Wondrous! If you recall, Harris put out a statement against the anti-genocide protestors in Washington (along with numerous anti-genocide protestors being arrested throughout these months) when her supporters were embarrassing themselves by saying she was against Netanyahu’s visit despite her scheduling a separate meeting and her campaign confirming her absence wasn’t a political statement.
To predict responses if they come, the flaws with the image will be ignored, and people will repeat: “do you think Trump will be better?” Probably not, but if you have to resort to genuine idiocy to say the inverse, then it seems like you truly don’t believe Trump will be much worse, and all we can take as proof is vibes and intuition. Kamala has repeatedly emphasized that she will be harder on immigration than Trump, but here of course her words can’t be believed!!
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Kill everyone now.
Advocate first degree murder.
Condone cannibalism.
Eat shit.
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i was right with you until that last part
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“You are supporting a genocide from a war criminal, your stance is the bare minimum of human decency, just to win an election”
“yEa BuT wHat AbOuT OrANge MaaN?! hE mOrE bAd”
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I’m here just harvesting downvotes, don’t mind me.
“…but but she picky promised us! She even said the P word!” 🥺
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A topic guaranteed to bring out the fringe wackos and helplessly naive single-issue voters. I wish OP had used "gaza" or "hamas" or something along those lines so that my keyword blocker would have caught this.
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