When you try to have a discussion in any forum run by American Democrats

Coming from across the big pond, Trump is simply worse though. Not like Biden is a great choice, but Trump is definitely worse.

Ok cool we know

Now that we've established this, let's focus on doing something about stopping the fascist who's currently president
- Okay what's your grand idea smart guy? What can we possibly do with a rigged two party system? Changes like that don't just fucking happen overnight so yes in the meantime pick the lesser of two evils and stop fucking bitching that all people can do is parrot pick the lesser of two evils we don't have any other fucking choice
- While we’re doing that, could we also make sure the worse fascist doesn’t gain power?

If you had to live thru 4 years of trump you'd probably do the same. He is very dangerous, the world would have a hard time if he was re-elected.

I've lived through it, and I've lived through Biden. They're both far-right extremists.

Edit: They're both dangerous. Palestinians, immigrants, and poor Americans are having a very bad time under Biden, and as a LGBTQIA+ person he is not an ally for us either.
- So do you prefer Trump?

Yeah because the time to work on candidates is past. You can still push for better secretaries and ask Biden to move leftward, but he is the candidate for this cycle and he's doing what he's doing.

If you want to have a meaningful conversation, you need to look to 26 and 28

You're willing to let innocent people die so you can try again in the next election? Bye, liberal.
- do you have anything like a plan that will help the numerous endangered groups
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You aren't obligated to support the fascist ghoul that Democrats present. It's up to them to make him worth voting for.

FYI I'm not telling you not to vote for him if you have your reasons, that would be unfathomably arrogant and would break this community's guidelines, nor am I telling you to vote for this unapologetic and irredeemable fascist, nor am I suggesting third party, nor abstaining.

But don't expect that people will just ignore the starvation, suffering, imprisonment, and unnecessary death and genocide to vote for a clearly fascist leader of an awful imperialist scourge of a state.
And what do you mean 26 and 28? You talking about the election years? Because I've got some strong words and a ban for you if you're willing to let that many people just fucking die in the interim.

Quick reminder for the comments: whataboutism is not allowed here and bootlicking Genocide Joe will result in your comments being removed

This silly post of all things has really struck a nerve with them
- They know that they're being called out and they're doing their Liberal crocodile tears thing

Have you ever seen a trolley problem?

Saying "we should stop the trolley" won't stop it. It's rolling. Make your choices.

If you think we're the ones pulling the lever, you're wrong. The wealthy and world leaders are at the switch, and we're tied to the tracks.

Trump is worse.

while i do feel bad for the innocents caught up in a genocide, i do kinda want to protect myself first? while biden isnt necessarily doing me that many favors as a trans person, i do genuinely fear for the future trump would have. I dont really want to have to be caught up in this, but until i have the ability to actually so much as try to leave for canada, there isnt much that i can do aside from trying to make sure nothing happens to me. I do wish third party was viable, but unfortunately our system just isnt made for that. and so while i would prefer not having a facist, all i feel im allowed to ask for is a facist that doesnt want specifically me dead

If you're delusional enough to believe that someone who's just fine with murdering children and imprisoning refugee families is any kind of ally, then that seems like the type of deeply offensive thought you should keep to yourself. This is utterly gross.

Scratch a liberal, and a fascist bleeds.

Mask. Fucking. Off.