Batterules

I've noticed this
Similar with the people who don't give a fuck about women's sports except for an excuse to marginalize trans people
- They've been conditioned to respond to certain key phrases with certain responses.
  So the trigger goes trans women -> care -> women's sports but you don't get women's sports -> care.
  Or veganism -> care -> nutrition but not nutrition -> care.
  Our brains are weird things, they have to develop links between ideas in both directions or else they stay one-way. It takes real work and discipline to develop critical thinking practices, and even then you have to keep working at it to minimise this kind of cognitive dissonance, and you'll never get rid of it entirely.
  Of course it helps if you're not miseducated by authoritarian schooling practices and conservative media.
- Or how people care soooo much about babies lives until they leave the uterus . After that, they can go die for all they care.

Fuck batteries, with keto I taste like fingernail polish remover!
- I only eat polar bear liver in order to make my flesh and fluids outright toxic.
  
  You just have more Vitamin Alpha than those cucks can handle.
  
  Fun fact: My wife ended up with pretty severe malabsorption after her bariatric surgery. Her vitamin A levels went so low that she had almost entirely lost her night vision. For like 6 years now she's been taking upwards of 125,000IU per day and only just recently her vitamin A levels have gotten just barely into the normal range.
  So what I'm saying is my wife could actually eat an appreciable amount of polar bear liver and be fine.

....how do vegans know what meaty humans taste like?
- You could look at veganism as the practice of avoiding products from animals that can't consent, which doesn't necessarily take cannibalism off the table.
  
  Rammstein in the distance
  
  Well, that would make some very interesting "consenting" cheese.
  Love me some queso de mamacita
- Oral was what I thought the implication was. Lithi-cum ion batteries lol
  
  Isn’t semen an animal product?
- Well, when a mommy vegan and a daddy vegan love each other very much...
- Unlike sexuality, vegans aren't born that way. It's usually by choice later in life, and a lot of vegans grew up not being vegan.
- Raw (2016) is a documentary about this

I've read that vegans average fewer nutrient deficiencies than omnivores. People should be worrying more about getting enough whole-food fiber than they are about protein.
- Yes and no because when vegans get nutrient deficient it hits them hard. Lack of fibre is completely benign compared to deficiencies in essential micronutrients -- fibre is not essential. You can have a maize and MSG diet if that also includes about two eggs a week your body is not going to be well off but it's going to cope instead of collapse.
  And lots of prospective vegans are hit by those deficiencies, and then drop out, at least out of strict veganism. Nothing like a gal's period stopping to scare them off. Which, conversely, means that if vegans want to actually grow their numbers they should stop being all blase about nutrition. It definitely is possible to get enough iron, even as a gal, from a vegan diet but yes you gotta eat your lentils. There's alternatives but how in the everloving does it happen that people turn vegan and don't eat enough, of all things, lentils. I probably eat enough lentils and I'm not even vegan.
  
  I'm a vegan. Lentils aren't a regular part of my diet. I'm willing to bet that they aren't in a lot of people's diets. I live in the US, and you kind of have to seek out lentils here. They aren't a rare and exotic food or anything like that, but which foods can you buy, ready-made, that contain lentils? Soup is about the only one I can think of.
  
  I wonder what kind of diet vegans are following that get deficiencies. I've been vegan for years (started because I had high cholesterol levels), and the only thing I've worried about is B12, which I get from enriched soy products or nutritional yeast. I try to just buy what's in season locally, then find vegan recipes or recipes that can easily be substituted to make vegan. I don't even eat much of the trendy "superfoods" like quinoa, kale, lentils, etc. More like collard/sweet potato/beet greens, chickpeas, pinto beans, root veggies, etc. I dunno where I get my iron from; probably greens. I also use veg or olive oil pretty liberally, especially in recipes that traditionally include beef or pork.
  
  Reject lentils, embrace broccoli 🥦
  Actually btw. Broccoli and spinach have much higher iron levels.
  
  Yeah, that's why I don't go vegan or vegetarian. I doubt I'll get enough of some nutrients that are easy to get from meat. I've cut out most of my dependency on the beef industry, though even that has been difficult to get to 0 and probably won't because I don't see myself ever being willing to give up cheese. So far, no alternative I've tried has come close enough.
  But an Indian vegetarian dish, dol (dal?), has become a regular dish in my home. It's mostly lentils and spinach but it's really good, even my daughter loves it. Plus it's really easy to make a giant batch of to freeze leftovers.
- I'm not Vegan, but I like trying to find Vegan meals I really enjoy, or close enough. One close enough is a bulgur bowl dish, using meat replacement and shawarma seasoning, tomatoes, cucumbers, sometimes chickpeas, sometimes grilled onions, and then the nonvegan parts: goat cheese and feta. Goat cheese is mixed with a little olive oil, garlic, and lemon juice to make it a sauce. There's no meat but ther is cheese, and it's a nice fiberous dish that helps reduce my meat intake anyway.
  
  My main problem with strict dietary rhetoric is that it doesn't acknowledge the benefit of people eating vegan (or whatever) sometimes. Like it's a good thing to get nutrition from diverse sources and there's carryover benefit to the planet when doing this.
  I'm not a vegan, but I eat a lot of plant-based meals and when I eat meat, because I eat less of it, it's generally local and ethically-raised. Militant vegans will often turn people from making decisions like this, and I think that's a shame.
  I was a vegan for years. And I was careful about trying to get my nutrients. But I needed to eat so much more and I was lowkey tired all the time. When I started eating some meat again I felt ashamed of myself for not living up to the rhetoric. But it's just silly to treat this as an all or nothing type thing. A person eating beans and rice one day and a small amount of beef in a stir fry the next is... not the same as a person eating fried chicken every day, and I don't appreciate when anyone implies it is.

Tf they think vegan people taste like rainbows and sunsets?
- Having had vegan girlfriends and a wife who was vegan for a bit I can attest it makes a difference. Maybe not rainbows but they tasted much sweeter and more mild than average.
  
  Yeah wife and i cut way back on meat, body odor in general is less.. gamey? Smokey? Something.
  I really like it, I'm easily overwhelmed by strong smells and I can usually wear unscented deodorant now. I used to funk right through it immediately.
  
  Does egg and dairy (vegetarian) make a difference?
- generally, having a shit diet will make you not smell (and i guess certain.. parts.. taste) great.
  whenever i eat mcdonalds i stink of some specific compound in their food for several days afterward, even if i shower thuroughly
  
  Meanwhile I can eat expired MREs and drnk nothing but Mt dew for a week and at worst I shit a brick and feel my teeth. Sounds like ya have a skill issue.
  
  I have noticed the same thing too... I think it's in the buns. At least I don't notice it with their fries or nuggets
- Vegans have more fruits and vegetables inside them so have a higher level of fermentation apparently. Everyone does to a certain extent, but I've found that occasionally it can lead to more gas (eat more grains)
  
  So I can legit just tell my vegan friends that they're drunk when they say weird shit.
  ..now, for the rest of my friends..

There are many subcultures around food. It's not like the world is split between vegans and junk food addicts.
The Cheeto and McDonalds eating crowd may have crappy nutrition but they're an extreme. The other extreme is meal-preppers. They know exactly how much chicken, rice and broccoli they're eating.
There are huge communities of people who are very health conscious. Some of them focus their consciousness on science, some of them on other methods. Some of those people are vegans. Some aren't.
- Thing is anyone health conscious already knows that you can have good nutrition with a vegan diet. Anyone generalizing veganism as having bad nutrition without looking at the specifics of what someone is eating has no idea what they're talking about and probably don't have good nutrition themselves if they're that uninformed
- Nice to see a sane take.
- But... But... You taste like batteries...

Mmmmm cows I raised and deer I shot, how scrumptious and nutritious!
- Yep. She the better life they have, the better for you, too.
  I don't eat much meat, but I enjoy it. I also do my own slaughtering and butchering for most of my meat.
  Of course, with a cow, that gets to be far more than a one-person job.
  
  100%, quality of life for the animal is quality of meat for you.
  Deer processing is a one (or two, with beers) person knife job, but cattle is best handled by the pros. I once had a calf die a a couple months in of bloat, and that fucker was about 4x the amount of work and meat, even with two people. I can't imagine how long it would take with a full grown bull.

When someone concern trolls vegans regarding deficiencies, more than likely they do not give a fuck about the person they are talking. And that is fucking annoying tbh.
- I'll translate this into more understandable English:
  When someone who claims to be concerned about vegans regarding any possible nutrient deficiencies, and trolls them about it, more than likely they do not give a fuck about the vegan. And that is fucking annoying tbh.
  
  Verily, when one doth profess concern for the welfare of vegans, yet doth engage in mockery and jest regarding their potential dearth of sustenance, 'tis most probable that such a one harbors no genuine care for the vegan's well-being. 'Tis indeed vexatious and perturbing, if truth be told.
- What?

I care for literally nothing about veganism; weirdly though it's starting to pop up everywhere I look this week.
- You should care. Its important
  
  Why's that?