Piracy: ꜱᴀɪʟ ᴛʜᴇ ʜɪɢʜ ꜱᴇᴀꜱ @lemmy.dbzer0.com Elliot @lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 mo. ago

Appreciation post for db0 admins in light of .world blocking /c/ piracy and similar /c/'s .

I understand why they did what they did and it makes me think of how db0 and other admins are saying fuck all and taking a very big liability for making and supporting a free internet and i want to say all the work you do is very much appreciated. Also shoutout to lemmy.ml admins for running a similar community on their own .

Links for supporting the db0 server and do consider donating as it is running behind on expenses.


Ko-fi	Liberapay

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I will never defederate from y’all ❤️
- OT, that's a very nice UN and instance name you have!
  
  Thank you! I started the server as a random project right after I left Reddit and shredded all of my posts. I’m pretty sure I’m the only active user but that’s okay by me. It’s a little money out of my pocket to give both myself and others refuge from social media and all of the enshitification.
Here's the donations links from on the sidebar mateys. The server is currently is not covering its hosting costs ;)

EDIT: Removed since they're in the OP now
- Added to the post .
- What are the current hosting costs? Every cent counts, but how much do y'all need?
  
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  The ko-fi page has that info i think.
  
  check the ko-fi. It shows how much progress we have to cover the costs until June
- Man, I didn't realize there were only 22 people supporting you monthly.
  
  53 of us are on Patreon too
Being defederated by lemmyworld is a badge of honor. Keep up the good work!
- Nah, I disagree. They are running a large community in the middle of Europe, in plain view and being personally known, and as such, liable. Adhering to applicable laws and regulations is the sensible thing to do, plain and simple.
  
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  That makes it even worse. Imagine putting in all this effort and taking all this supposed risk to create a new social media platform free of the pitfalls that come with a for profit site like reddit only to slowly adopt the exact same corporate friendly code of conduct while purposefully curating a community of annoying shitheads who are nearly indistinguishable from the horde of cretins on reddit.
  
  If making a new reddit is legitimately the best they can do, then they should absolutely just scuttle the entire project.
  
  Nerd
- Sure, just like that hexbear handle being a badge if retardation.
Feels like .world is defedding from errybody. Eventually theyre gonna be like aol (or some other more recent, relevant walled garden).

Do y'all think this "cleaning up" has to do with their META threads integration?
- Do y'all think this "cleaning up" has to do with their META threads integration?
  
  You mean as opposed to their stated reason: DMCA?
  
  I'm talking about the broader implications of meta integration being the possible driving force behind the multiple defederations, not specifically this, the latest, which would be included as part of a larger "cleanup".
- Wait, they are federating with Threads? I thought everyone, even single-user instances blocked them. WTF?
  
  Yeah, this is why users should get to decide which instances they get to see.
  
  Let's be our own moderators instead of relying on useful idiots to do it for us.
- Do y’all think this “cleaning up” has to do with their META threads integration?
  
  I think bad actors have infiltrated their admin team and are pushing their own agenda.
  
  Lots of useful idiots want to ban discussion of piracy because it makes them realize how they're getting ripped off.
  
  Nobody wants to acknowledge how they're being taken for a ride, especially useful idiots.
- I am specifically not on world because they want me to sign up with my real email address. Nty, deanonymizing fucks.
  
  Do you have a link to this? That sounds extremely alarming, I did not realize they had done that.
- Do you have a link to this? That sounds extremely alarming, I did not realize they had done that.
  
  I was going off this info, and was being a bit chicken little (but that position has been working for me LoL) Here's that link
  
  https://www.theverge.com/24106231/threads-fediverse-demo-meta-fediforum
  
  I got a reply from stretch@lemmy.dbzer0.com further down that sounded like they knew more than me about the situation.
  
  Im sticking to my deffedding for now, and I'll wait to hear is the sky is falling from my tinfoil bunker
- .world is basically just the losers who got upset that it was too difficult to be a reddit mod since they didn't have enough power
- Just went to ko-fi too, i use lemmy daily and i love this instance & the admins here, and thats worth a few bucks a month
Care to ELI5 for us casuals who did not catch and are missing the obvious?
- AFAIK Lemmy.world (the largest Lemmy instance) was issued a takedown request for something unrelated, and conducted a review of the piracy communities following that.
  
  Unfortunately they decided to remove/unfed a few piracy communities as a result, such as this one on dbzer0.
  
  So while we are still all federated, lemmy.world users can no longer see or interact with the !piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com community ☹️
  
  So we can still things from them but they can’t see things from us?
  
  I suppose that’s why people make at least two accounts.
  
  Lemmy.world Continues to be the worst shitheap on the fediverse
- Sure what do you wanna know ?
db0 is a personal hero of mine I have been a follower since his OCTGN creations.
- What’s that acronym?
  
  Divided by zero
- daym, you take me back. Pre or post A:NR? :D
  
  Started with A:NR, and your sound effects were legendary amongst everyone I know. LOGIN REJECTED
As someone who just started with this community, I'll admit that I'm a little confused by what happened. Appreciate everyone who puts in time here though!
- One of the largest instances, lemmy.world, is no longer receiving posts from this community. They're worried about legal troubles I think?
  
  Legally I think they’d probably be exempted from liability as a common carrier, similar to how your email server isn’t going to get sued if you mail someone a link to piracy. I doubt they’re interested in testing that theory though.
  
  Didnt they unblock it, or did they block it again?
  
  They’re worried about legal troubles I think?
  
  Bullshit. There are no legal troubles for them. Someone on their team doesn't like piracy, so they try to stifle discussion about it.
- Don't worry about it, just steer clear of lemmy.world and you'll be fine
Love 'em. And mods of this community are pretty tight too 💘

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I will never give a shoutout to lemmy.ml for anything. They run a tankie lovefest of an instance.
- dude, lemmy was created by ML's. Youre a fucking cretin, you sad sack of sobs
  
  And Steve Jobs believed he could cure his cancer with acupuncture and dietary supplements. Does that mean that I should respect him because he innovated the iPhone? Lol
- Shut up loser
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- Well... yes. And its a good thing.
- They run a tankie lovefest of an instance.
  
  brb, making a new account on lemmy.ml
- Based as hell if true
- They‘re literally the reason you can post this. Show a little respect.
  
  They have literally zero to do with the reason I can post. My instance is still federated with @lemmy.dbzer0.com
- Haha did they ban you? They got strong opinions, but don't hold a grudge! Grab a tankard and join their lovefest!
  
  Nah! They’re fake commies.
  
  I can respect the idea of communism and the people trying to make it work.
  
  Those guys are not that.
- I've noticed people overuse the word 'tankie' to the point it just means 'independent.'
  
  Ya'll tribalists really need to get your shit together, lol. Rational people aren't taking you seriously, anymore.
  
  They're a pretty textbook example of a tankie group. To even join the instance you have to copy and paste a paragraph from 1 of 2 communist texts and any criticisms of China and/or Russia gets you banned lol. I would honestly not be surprised in the slightest if Russia or China were funneling money to the Mali government to actively encourage radical communist behavior on the .ml domain. Mali was another failed communist country afterall. The .ml users often support Russia in the Ukrainian conflict and act like Western countries are forcing capitalism on the world because sovereign countries like Taiwan and Ukraine are actively trying to assimilate into western culture and establish capitalist democracies. Their proposed solution to another nation choosing to distance themselves from the failed communist autocracies they were part of is to forcibly invade, detain, relocate, and resettle the land with communist friendly nationals.
  
  Unrestricted capitalism is bad, but it's demonstrably not as bad as the attempts at "communism" over the course of the last century that almost always end up becoming a communist autocracy. (East Germany, Soviet Union, Cuba, Taiwan, Afghanistan, Belarus, Cambodia, Czech Republic, Poland, North Vietnam, Hungary, North Korea)
  
  Communism ≠ socialism.

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