I also have this false memory, apparently
I also have this false memory, apparently
I also have this false memory, apparently
I not only remember the cornucopia one, but I thought this was the reason I learned the word cornucopia when I was a kid. Most Mandela effect stuff is kind of silly to me, but this one just freaks me out.
You probably learned cornucopia from thanksgiving, that's how I learned it. Also, google cornucopia and basically every image looks like the fruit of the loom logo but with the horn behind it. It's pretty obvious that people are so used to seeing the cornucopia imagery that when it's combined with the fruit of the loom logo their brains go "yeah that looks right" and just assume that it must've been that at some point.
Mandela effects are fun and I understand the appeal but anyone who takes them seriously is straight up just not using their critical thinking skills.
Cornucopias were not a commonly seen thing in my region or most regions of the world. We have fruit bowls instead. In the 00s a lot of people had fake fruit in a big bowl just for decoration since it was such a trend. I saw fruit bowls a lot more than I ever saw cornucopias. But nobody talks about the missing bowl. I didn't even know what cornucopias were called for a long time. Funny thing is I thought they were called looms because when I was learning to read I got fixated on the text in logos and spent a long time staring at that one. I remember looking at my underwear tag while shitting and thinking "wtf is a loom? It must be that cone thing the fruit is coming out of." That's what makes it weird, the consistency of it plus the amount of people who have actual memories associated with the cornucopia.
I just checked some old clothes I've got from the 90s. No cornucopia. Wonder if it was on the packaging or ads or something
Mandela effect stuff used to be just weird and silly, but in the last 5 years or so the internet has become centralized enough that it is actually possible to scrub all records of something from history, especially if it's something innocuous. That makes it very difficult to trust the corporations when they say "no, our logo never looked like x" when they might be actively lying about it.
Maybe their machine learning determined that in 3-5 years cornucopias would be deemed a symbol of oppression so they removed it to get out ahead. Or maybe some rich assholes son who was gifted a job as head of marketing just inexplicably hates cornucopias and wanted to scour them from the company. Or maybe through sheer incompetence, no one properly documented the logo change and everyone who was in the company has since moved on, so now everyone is like "hey according to our official records it was never like that" and they stick to that out of sheer corporate stubbornness.
Point is, for whatever reason, companies now have the capability of gaslighting people about this. You can still look up their old patent history, but that's about it unless you randomly find old pictures that happen to contain it.
I still think most of the time it's just common misremembered things from childhood.
The wicker conch was there when I was a kid, 100%, but maybe it was regional?
Or maybe they realised getting rid of the conch would save them a million dollars in printing costs over five years (or whatever) and quietly removed it?
This one is the perfect example because I also remember it having the cornucopia despite it never being there in the official product. I would bet that the memory comes from the brain mashing together similar looking artwork from Thanksgiving.
Note: a memory is still a memory even if it isn't accurate, because memories aren't perfect.
I think a time traveler fucked up and the cornucopia is an echo from another timeline.
Or it wasn't and you're just mistaken. You can find vintage underwear and t shirts on ebay from fotl back in the 70's and 80's right now. It isn't there. Also, snopes.com deemed it false.
I’ve 100% seen the cornucopia version in the past. The only reasonable explanation I can think of is that perhaps people have used the fan-made one without realizing it? It’s a better explanation than parallel universes, at least ¯_ツ)¯
Perhaps the more reasonable explanation is that you're misremembering.
Lol fan made underwear logo, I love it.
Probably just a trick of the mind, but maybe you got some knock off stuff? IDK who would make fake FOTL but they seem to make all sorts of counterfeit products.
More likely that your brain is just remember seeing cornucopias.
Who's downvoting this? Our brains are crap. You were primed to remember the cornucopia so you did. That's it. Y'all really think there's a vast conspiracy to convince you that Bernstein was spelled differently and some random logo was different? Consider that our stupid heads are literally full of stupid meat. We're barely smarter than a shit throwing baboon.
Maybe it's a fake. I once saw a Diesel t-shirt where the punk wore a thin headband.
I would swear my undergarments had the cornucopia logo when I was growing up. I actually remember the point in my life where I saw the logo without it and assumed they decided to modernize.
Ditto, but I had a spooky event preceding that. A black robed guy wearing a wide brimmed hat (think Vatican Elite or something) walked into my uncle's bedroom when I was a kid and held up two white T-shirts from Fruit of the Loom on brightly colored plastic clothes hangers, and said:
"We're thinking about changing the logo, do you prefer this traditional one, or this modern one?"
And, me, being small child babu and scared out of my mind by having a tall, pale, black garment dressed figure in the room with round sunglasses went:
"Modern. It's the Year 2000 coming up, the new millennium. Everything has to change."
He laughed and thanked me for my time and then walked THROUGH THE WALL to leave, not through a door.
The next year, 9/11 happened, and everything changed. Still boils my brains.
Same. I saw the new logo in a sign in a Kmart
Aren't clothes pretty commonly counterfeited?
Yes but fruit of the loom is already your bargain barrel brand.
Fruit of the Loom is already like the cheapest shit you could buy. Who would counterfeit the shitty brand?
I’m pretty sure the local department store wasn’t selling counterfeit kids underwear. This isn’t like a Nike shirt or something.
I'll apologise now for the tiktok link, i know how much this place hates tiktok but here is a woman who did a deep dive and found evidence that the company actually changed their logo and tried to scrub the existence of the Cornucopia from the internet to distance themselves from Bad PR.
https://www.tiktok.com/@dimelifting/video/7311071477732838687
Not so sure I believe this one. I can't find any evidence that this is real, but I am finding a lot that shows it was never part of the logo. For example, this needle package from 1967 doesn't have one and there isn't a single trademark owned by them, past or present, that has the cornucopia in it.
So here i am, minding my business on a Friday afternoon and this guy, this guy comes in with a tiktok link! And I'm all like hrrrnnnggggggggggg ehhhhhhhhhhhh but you know what I'll let it slide today. It's nice out, gonna bbq later if it doesn't rain. What the hell, right? You go ahead and do your tiktoks and if anyone gives you hell about it just remember this guy said he's giving you a pass
That woman has already been caught spreading fake/photoshopped shit multiple times. The TikTok conspiracy is that it’s a coverup for a chemical spill at a factory that Fruit of the Loom didn’t even own at the time.
I like this idea but it’s hard to believe that nobody can produce a pair of underwear or t-shirt from the 70s that they found in their basement/attic
I've got one and ill show it soon but in the meantime buy my merch and donate!
That's how conspiracies work, right?
I think for conspiracy minded people, that just proves how deep the conspiracy goes!
They're not, but the old company logo was associated with a scandal/disaster so they changed it to distance themselves.
Idk if I really buy it considering how similar the new logo is, nobody is gonna think it's two different companies. But I haven't fully immersed myself in the conspiracy yet, so I might be missing some context
Tiktokkers will say anything that feeds them views. FotL is probably paying influencers to make this content for publicity
This is the type of conspiracy I can get behind.
Is this a butt pun? Please say yes...
TikTok, really? It's literally a Chinese disinformation tool. Don't be a tool yourself.
This is the longest and most confusing Snopes article I have ever read. I feel like the Mandela Effect is clawing at the boundaries of its containment, trying to escape and start to change day-to-day things about my home and the people around me.
I'm usually one to trust snopes but they're full of shit
Snopes is not immune to corporate collusion.
FotL has launched a successful propaganda campaign to cover up that they poisoned an entire town.
https://www.tiktok.com/@dimelifting/video/7311071477732838687
Sorry for the Tik Tok link.
It's just called corporate gaslighting at that point
I HATE Tik Tok, but no. Snopes is 100% falling for corporate propaganda to cover up that FotL poisoned an entire town.
https://www.tiktok.com/@dimelifting/video/7311071477732838687
If a TikTok video is the only evidence you have, then you have no evidence. Please stop spamming this bullshit.
Did you not watch her later TikTok where she admitted that FoL did not even own that factory at the time she was claiming? TikTok can be a very useful resource, but like everything we need to use critical thinking.
SAME. I know without a doubt the brown cornucopia was part of the fruit logo.
SAME. I know without a doubt the brown cornucopia was part of the fruit logo.
There is zero doubt in my mind. It's literally how I learned what a cornucopia is.
I was in 6th grade and our school was going to have a Christmas play, which involved some kids dressing as reindeer. The teacher showed us an example of the kind of sweatpants we'd need to wear, and they were Fruit of the Loom, still in the package. I asked the teacher what the brown fruit was, and she told me to look it up and that it was a cornucopia, except she said it like "Cornycopia," which I couldn't find in the dictionary until she told me it was spelled with a 'u' and not a 'y'.
I didn't misremember that, I didn't confuse it with Thanksgiving, etc. The only reason I know what a cornucopia is is because of that and how she mispronounced it.
YUP. You stand firm by that and I stand by you. We know what we saw!
I had a powerful memory as a child too and I'll never forget it was 1979/1980 I closely studied that logo on our clothing tags for some reason, because that's what little bright intelligent children do, we soak up the world around us like an information-hungry sponge. It's a powerful memory burned into my head.
I don't have this one, but I will cut you if you call them The Bearenstain Bears.
I am not crazy! I know they swapped those letters! I learned to read with Bearenstein. I knew it was Bearenstein. One after See Spot Run. As if I could make such a mistake. Never. Never!
I think a lot of us just mispronounced it. As an American "stain" seems like a lot less common of a name ending than "stein". Easy to gloss over a spelling in a long word.
The off-spelling was from overseas published books, so they couldn't be sold in America.
I’m not in America and my books growing up were a mix of hand me downs, library books, and stuff from the church. Maybe I got the mispelled versions.
This one is freaky, but it just comes from the strong cultural association between imagery of big ol' piles of produce and cornucopias. We expect one to be there so our brain tries to helpfully fill in the "gap" in our memory for us.
Exactly. And I'm pretty sure as a kid I just imagined that's what a loom was.
I think also there's some conflating happening with Thanksgiving images. Very often the fall veggies are arranged very similarly, and Thanksgiving images often do have a cornucopia. I even had a Thanksgiving sticker from a random event that basically looked exactly like I remembered Fruit of the Loom except it was corn and pumpkins and stuff.
That's the weird thing.
In my country cornucopias have no cultural significance or association with piles of produce. Still, every time I have talked Mandela effects with friends and acquaintances and asked them to describe the logo for me (stores in my country would sometimes have imported t-shirts from Fruit of the Loom) they describe it as "a big pile of different fruit with that basket-thing behind", not even knowing a word for the object. When I tell them there is nothing behind the fruit pile, they are in total disbelief. Like many other commenters in this post, I remember asking my dad, after buying a pack of t-shirts, what that thing behind the fruit was, as I had never seen anything like that before in my life. I must check up with him someday if he still has any surviving t-shirts left, though I doubt it, since they were cheaply made and broke often. It's also the weirdest feeling, that the logo with the cornucopia in this post is identical to my memory of the logo, down to the smallest detail, and is exactly how all I have talked to have remembered it as well.
It's the same thing about the Monopoly mascot and his monocle. People try to explain it by saying that people conflate it with some Peanuts brand mascot, but in my country we have never had that brand in our stores nor any other brands with a mascot like that. Still, I am not as astounded that people in my country and myself remember him with a monocle, as there have been plenty of characters in movies, series and cartoons, foreign as well as domestic, that, when sporting a tailcoat and tophat, would always wear a monocle to match. The whole set is so broadly associated with aristocratism, that you would fill in the gap, so to say. Nobody in my country would say the same for a pile of fruit, unless it was a bowl we were talking about.
Why do people always do the weird thing of trying to be mysterious and not just say what country they're talking about? Like no one is going to track you down by knowing you're Latvian but they might say 'I'm also from there and can explain where you're mistaken...'
that, plus it just looks better with a cornucopia. Like if apple never had the bite on the apple and someone started a rumor that it actually did, that would be easy to believe because the bite just obviously looks more like a logo.
Just having a bunch of fruit doesn't give any connotations to textile, but the cornucopia adds something that bridges the gap so the logo isn't so out of place.
But who drew the cornucopia???
I can't believe someone sketched that in to explain a Mandela event
With the prevalence of cornucopias used in Thanksgiving artwork and how we (people in the US) were force-fed all of it growing up, I imagine allowed the juxtaposition
Chances are, if it's corporate, you're not crazy.
Regardless of reality, the one with the cornucopia looks better
Some Woolworth department stores had a Harvest House diner inside who's logo was a big cornucopia. That's one possible place people of a certain age remember it from. It was really big outside of the Woolworths in our mall
I guess I kind of remember it not having a cornucopia behind it, because I remember the shape of the label and it wouldn't have fit. I also feel like I remember thinking it would look better with a cornucopia behind it because it looked exactly like all those pictures of a cornucopia with fruit pouring out of it. And then I thought, what the fuck is a horn of plenty? I've got one right here, pal.
This one is rough, but have y'all heard of Stouffer's stuffing? D:
It's on the shelf in that pic
I definitely remember Stove Top Stuffing.
The show that pic is from was making a joke about the Mandela Effect. S1 Episode 3 was all about it, so this showing up in S3 Episode 2 was just an Easter egg/callback to when they went around sticking the Stouffer's logo over the Kraft branded stuffing boxes in stores. https://www.hbo.com/how-to-with-john-wilson/season-1/3-how-to-improve-your-memory
I was in the “remember” group for the Berenstain Bears, but in this case I only remember ever seeing the logo on the right (the real one).
There was absolutely a cornucopia
Sorry, but there really never was. Every time people claim this with absolute complete confidence. Then they dig an old fruit of the loom shirt out of the bottom drawer, and the cornucopia just isn't there. Just a bunch of fruit. And it blows their mind.
I think what is really happening is seeing or discussing the fake cornucopia version implants that false "memory" in our minds, because it seems so appropriate. It would almost be a better logo, IMO.
But I can't say that I would have mentioned a cornucopia associated with the brand before seeing this post. Very interesting psychological phenomenon none the less.
Many of us remember growing up thinking the cornucopia was called a "loom," since that makes logical sense looking at the logo. Fruit of the (thing they're literally falling out of, gotta be a) Loom. Then remember learning the word Cornucopia later and thinking. What in the fuck I thought this was called a "loom" because of the picture in my tidy whities.
If the logo was a cornucopia in the past, there would be images of old clothing with that logo on the internet. There are only 2 photos on the internet showing a cornucopia logo on T-shirts (a black shirt and a white one). Both show the logo printed directly on the cloth. But back in the 90s that wasn't a thing. FotL T-shirts had the label sewn in, not printed on. And both photos are of really low quality and monochrome, so you can't see that the logo was modified with a pen. Also, the logo looks different between those 2 photos.
I agree. I think this one is so believable because of how well it fits, it just feels right.
Like I said with every other instance of this, we changed world lines when they killed Harambe. It was not the choice of stein's gate.
I always remember Publix had a cornucopia.
Was the Morton Salt girl holding the umbrella with one or two hands? Nobody knows, nobody cares, but if you ask that question and show the current logo, people are going to swear she held it with both hands.
These usually trip me up, but not this one. I gotta hand it to Morton Salt here. They found a way to make sure I would remember exactly what their logo looks like.
I picture two without looking, but I'm not super confident about this one.
There are people that think it was two hands? I remember thinking as a kid that she held the salt canister funny.
The cornucopia has a different line thickness and the shadows follow the shape, rather than go perfectly to the right like on every other object. It's so stylistically out of place that I can't see it being legit.
This is actually an artists rendering of what people "remember." What's really interesting about this case of the "Mandela effect" is that a lot of people (including I) remember it exactly like this. Usually in other cases people remember things at least slightly differently.
You know what, no, I don't believe you, Deceptichum
Reading this thread, I feel like this company has paid some actors and is just A/B testing a logo change.
I had to google all the nouns in this post.
My theory is bootlegs.
I don't get the Mandela effect. I never even heard of the guy until he was released from prison. Still, didn't reoffend so I guess he learned his lesson.
Pretty sure Fruit of the Loom didn't have that font either. I think that's a new one.
I did think it was Berenstein bears, but in fairness I did only have one book and it was a worn out scratch and sniff book where all the pages smelt vaguely of pepper. Also a six year old's memory might not be the most reliable thing in the world.
I never remembered the logo on the left. It definitely wasn't something I've ever seen on those cheap clothes.
They got rid of it to distance themselves from accusations of really shitty business practices iirc