You know how bad it needs to be to be ignored for over 2 decades!
You know how bad it needs to be to be ignored for over 2 decades!
You know how bad it needs to be to be ignored for over 2 decades!
It's a "best before" date not an expiration date, it might still be good!
Maybe they meant it was disgusting. Like they bought a couple, ate one, and decided not to eat the other, and didn't get around to tossing it.
It's probably still perfectly safe to eat. It likely just tastes like hot garbage. Frozen food doesn't technically expire, it just slowly gets more and more freezer burnt that degrades the quality and taste. It remains perfectly safe to eat indefinitely, however.
This assumes there was no significant power outage for 27 years, which I would not bet on
How high did the item score? https://xkcd.com/2178/
From a reverse image search, looks like this was originally posted on Twitter by Orla Walsh, a dietician. Her education experience on her LinkedIn puts her at about 36 years old at the time the image was posted (July 2023). Since this is her mom's fridge though, we estimate her age at 36+25=61. So, total score is 42.62.
What formula are you using? And where did 25 come from? 2023-1997 = 26 and (26 / 36) x 100 = 72.2
Edit: nevermind, I see you were estimating the mom's age. My bad, all is well.
I kind of want to see a charter plot of that scoring function projected onto a 3-axis manifold with a colored heat map. How would I minMax my anticipated score given my current age or projected lifespan?
How many power outages has that Lasagna seen?
Inside it's just a box of snow with cheese.
What do you mean, it says new right on the box. Can’t be that old
NOS food
Isn't this just survivor bias?
The unreliable fridges from 1980 have all failed already.
In Engineering you have two different kinds of failures:
The first is to do with manufacturing flaws and happens in the first couple of months of use, hence how Warranties work - bad part of bad assembly so it breaks on first use or soon after.
The second kind is the device dying from decay due to use, from old age if you will.
Survivor bias, IMHO, only applies for those devices that last beyond the stage were the first kind of failure can happen as it's kinda random (you can reduce the proportion of devices that fail, but for any one device it's random if it will be one that fails or not)
So a 3 year old fridge dying is not from manufacturing defects but it's dying from faster ageing, which is a flaw in the design or a choice of cheaper, lower quality components.
From what I've seen that's exactly what's been happenning: less robust designs and cheaper components with shorter lifespans, all to save on raw material costs.
Lower manufacturing quality tends to cause the first kind of failures, not the failures well past the first few months.
PS: Note that dying from the second kind of failure still has a random probability for any one device, though whilst the probability from dying from manufacturing flaws is very time dependent (starting very high and then tailing off to pretty much zero within some months), the probability of dying from age is a lot less time dependent and if that much increases slightly with increasing age (whilst the other kind decreases steeply with age, specifically decreases steeply with use). I'm mentioning this for completness, as the point still stands - if there is a high proportion of devices of a given type dying at year 3, then that design has a much higher rate of failure due to aging than devices for which a much smaller proportion dies at year 3, hence the design is not robust and/or lower quality components are being used.
Could be, but I think it's been well established that things just used to be built better before globalism moved American manufacturing jobs to SE Asia.
With some exceptions, like lamps or tvs, older devices lasted much more. You can inspect the older devices you find around you and check for yourself. In general, they were much more robust and used better components and were designed to last. This was due to a lot of things that were different. I will try to list some:
These are the things that came to my mind. However, it's important to remember that there are products being made out there with the same robustness level of old appliances. Look into industrial devices, for example. They're build to last for decades and endure much more than common devices, but the prices aren't inviting to the average user.
I want my whole kitchen and laundry room using 1980s tech
March 97 of what year?
2097, obviously, cause 1817 there were no plastics* or refrigerators** or cameras cheap enough to take pictures of trivial shit*** and 1997 would be to obvious. Nah, its definitely not 1997
wat?
Let's get this out onto a tray.
Nice
No hiss
Nonzero chance that abiogenesis occurred in there
check out this custom flavour profile!
I'd honestly be impressed by a freezer that's been running since '97.
That's before they started building them to fail. Why? Because a freezer that's been running since '97 is at least two unsold new freezers.
There's also a lot of other stuff that changed over time. New appliances may be more efficient, run on different (more environmentally friendly) coolant, have lead-free solder circuits, etc.
The thing is, a lot of that old stuff which was found to have health or environment issues also lasted longer. Leaded solder didn't get burrs, for example. The components may also have been easier to repair.
But there's also survivor bias. For every old freezer that sat in grandma's basement for 2-3 decades many more ended up in a scrap heap.
I have a freezer from 1953, works fine. It's appliances made after @2000 that shit the bed in 5 years or less. No, it's not survivorship bias, there's a certain time period you don't see anything survived from.
No, it's not survivorship bias
Yes it is. The probability is much more significant that there are appliances from 2000s still working fine while your 1950s piece is one of the last few left. Just because your reality has a different view doesn't mean it's the same on a global scale.
Nokia 3310 would like to have a chat with you
How big is that freezer the she forgot a lasagna in there for this long?
Tomb style freezer probably, the bottom is basically inaccessible so shit gets forgotten...
My mom didn't defrost the freezer for ages. It's finally dead, but it took 2 hours just for the doors to unfreeze from the rest so I could open them.
See for yourself:
It does say new on the package
Does that brand even exist anymore?
One would hope not
Maybe it ages like wine.
Uncorked?
Even this picture is a decade old by now.
Bro dont break my meme heart like this
Nice little hiss
Let's get this out onto a tray, Nice!
What impresses me most is that her refrigerator has been working at least since 1997 This refrigerator deserves to go to the Valhalla of refrigerators
The Einherjar shall use it as a beer cooler!
Sooo, How was it?
Send it to ashens
My first thought as well, lol.
Though sending a frozen item international mail and hoping it stays frozen the entire time is probably expensive.
Sure it's not 1997 now, but who knows what will happen in the future?
If Futurama has taught me anything it’s that time will loop back around.
Better hold onto it until it’s in date again.
After all that time, it truly is a kitchen classic.
My girlfriend's family cabin has a cold storage in the basement. We found some canned stew that had expired in 1982. A friend of mine actually ate it and he didn't get sick!
can food can last far longer than the expiration date, as long as it still has seal integrity, and not bulging.
Yeah I'd argue canning is one of the greatest technological marvels of the 20th century. I never check the expiration date of the cans in my kitchen
Yeah, the expiry is beaurocracy in action, but okay beiroacracy, I'm fine with putting the dates. But canned goods are eternal if stored properly, and doing a quick inspection for what you mentioned is all you need when you're scouring the wasteland for Vienna sausages in the far off time of the year 2025.
My first question about the lasagna was "how did it taste?"
Probably real beef!
I was thinking the same thing. It's probably higher quality ingredients than today's shit. I grew up in the 80s and I distinctly remember food tasting better back then. Even shitty TV dinners.
When was the mad cow prion problem in UK beef?
In the United Kingdom, from 1986 to 2015, more than 184,000 cattle were diagnosed with the peak of new cases occurring in 1993.
From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bovine_spongiform_encephalopathy
I don't know if that affected Ireland, or whether Ireland was importing British beef, but I don't think I'd eat that even if it smelled good, and I wouldn't give it to my dog either
She’ll finally be in the mood for it, and learn that you shouldn’t throw things away cause you never know when you’ll need it. /s
Guys it's just a "best by" date! Those things last forever!
If it went in the freezer good, it's good
That's probably the best microwave dinner left on the planet if it doesn't have freezer burn.
probably still good
SteveMRE1987 wants it
Nice hiss!
My father was an academic and the thing academics do when they visit each other's houses is to bring a bottle of something. So they had a cellar room full of booze. It was awesome when I was in high school in the mid-90s. My parents didn't drink beer though, so there was no beer in the house except for a six-pack of Michelob at the back of the room that had pull tabs on it. They stopped making pull tabs in 1980. So it was at least 14-year-old beer. It was one of the few things I didn't think about and/or decide to steal.
Similar situation for me, but my sister was five years older than me and age and her friends got to all the good stuff first. All that was left for me was a selection of gross flavored brandy and a bunch of novelty shaped bottles that I undoubtedly ruined the collectible value of when I cracked them open.
I don't think she can throw that out. It might be legally classified as a culturally significant existing artifact.
Kitchen Classics.... Yup it's a classic alright!
*historical exhibit
Kitchen Classics to be sure!
I'd love to see a product comparison of the same one sold today (if they do and it exists)