The USian Democratic Party is fucking baked boiled fried and cooked.
It's Joever for the Democrats no lie. I know polls are still pretty even and something could happen to give them a shot in the arm but honestly all the videos I've been watching and conversations I've been having IRL are just pointing to a complete anti-Democrat vibe. Watching a few videos that are saying the same thing and it could just be algorithm bias but idk. I don't even mean just for 2024 election like long term this party is fucked. I used to think they were going to be bent over and moved out of the way by the Republicans (consequently establishing a further fascist government) because Dems are spineless but they're actually doing such a terrible job that they're going to get voted out and allow the Republicans to further fascist-ize the US if that's even possible.
I'm low-key here for it, going to be interesting but I'm very scared for marginalized people and the proleys in general.
Noo you OWE the Democrats your vote to prevent FASCISM and if you DON'T vote for us you actually are to blame for the further oppression of your people (which will happen under us, too)
If you don't vote for this shitty party then the other one will make things even worse and also you have no other choice and also we are the greatest democracy the world has ever seen and also skill issue bootstraps you can't shoot your way to liberation!!!
signed with my totally anti-racist condolences, thoughts, and prayers, the liberal state
Be prepared for more bamboozlement under the guise of journalism. Understand that Black politics will not be part of any discussion. Making it so would create a problem for people whose goal is to win office while also excluding the people whose votes they need. Media are an important part of sham democracy. No one should expect anything more than, “But Trump!” between now and November 2024. -- Margaret Kimberley
Clown show, the lot of them. Well for us it's been the same no matter who's in office so I couldn't care any less, the real pearl clutching will come from the libs
For me, this started in the aftermath of the Trump presidency, and the absolute denial and non-engagement of the Democratic party to self-examine their own actions that led to defeat, such as blocking Sanders to promote an unpopular Clinton, blaming everything on their voters, kicking and screaming, and then of course four years later fucking Sanders again.
I heard a good podcast with historia publica yesterday, and he said it excellently: when there's crisis, the youth wants to radicalize, but unfortunately, in our countries you are not allowed to radicalize left, only to radicalize right. (I'm paraphrasing).
In like 2018 pod Jons started an entire new series about litigating the previous election. Their big idea a progressive candidate who is even more progressive, cooler, hipper than Bernie. They declared Kamala as the perfect candidate.
I don't think they were saying he's good, but that even his brand of (incredibly popular) milquetost social imperialism was still unnacceptably left wing to the Democrats, who chose instead to lose Neoliberal-ly
In a world that needs to evolve or die, a party that’s got a more conservative culture than the actual Conservative opposition is fundamentally doomed tbh
If the US is around long enough, we might see a different party rise to take their place in the two party system, just like the republicans did with the Whigs.
It'd probably a hardcore libertarian party or something, wouldn't it?
Yeah there was a meme on the lib-space the other day about how you have to hold your nose and VOTE (hoping for a future more progressive dem) or you'll lose the chance to vote forever.
But if you follow the logic to its end-point, the meme fails. Since the DNC picks your D candidate, and D is the only one you can vote for forever, are you really voting for a future you can look forward to now? Is there even a point when one side is a hand-picked quiet fascist and the other is a loud obnoxious fascist?
Would finally bring the US in line with the rest of the west circa maybe 60-70 years ago if they finally did that. But I don't really see much of a labour movement over there.
The dems have no constituency. The idpol will only take you so far. At some point you have to appeal to people’s material interests, and the republicans are better than they are at appealing to the interests of the bourgeoisie.
This basically. They definitely protect big business and privatization, sprinkled in with some reactionary patriotic bullshit and that's them in a nutshell
Yes, it's going to suck. But it was going to suck hard anyway. At least now the Democrats will be out of the way and unable to siphon anymore revolutionary energy from the masses. It'll be final boss time from here on out.
The discrediting of the liberals prior to the Russian Revolution opened a can of fake left parties. The Bolsheviks still had to defeat many bosses before, and also in the course of, finally crushing the whites.
I just can't endure the suffering of next year when the elections come, Trump probably wins and puts the nail in the coffin while everyone seethes 24/7 on social media...
Yea fr, Apolitical people I know who in the past were vaguely More for Dems (still didn’t vote tho) are now shit-talking Biden. And every point they bring up is pretty valid. I dont think they care enough to vote but still shows a shift in opinion
are now shit-talking Biden. And every point they bring up is pretty valid.
What are their points? I mean I could write up a huge list myself, I'm just curious which things are pushing the apolitical people you know against him. Like is it mostly the assisted genocide, or more about their own falling living standards?
Well, it’s the United States of course, Genocide is our foundation of our state, so apoliticals CAN’T really judge him on that lest they judge the founding fathers, which they likely won’t do because of years of indoctrination. Their issues are with his extreme old age and extraordinarily frequent gaffs, his claiming to be Pro-Union but being a Right-winger. I can’t speak for anti-Israel sentiments because most people I know don’t want to talk about it.
The democrats have made it clear that you're not voting against fascism, you're just providing a preference to where the fascism is pointing. The whole "oh if you don't vote democrat minorities are going to die" is BS when they're literally funding a mass genocide as we speak.