UPDATED: X, the Elon Musk-owned social service formerly known as Twitter, said it filed a legal claim against the Center for Countering Digital Hate. “Despite our continued progress, the Cent…
Twitter filed a lawsuit against the Center for Countering Digital Hate. “Despite our continued progress, the Center for Countering Digital Hate (CCDH) and its backers have been actively working to assert false and misleading claims encouraging advertisers to pause investment on the platform. X is a free public service funded largely by advertisers. Through the CCDH’s scare campaign and its ongoing pressure on brands to prevent the public’s access to free expression, the CCDH is actively working to prevent public dialogue,” the company said in a blog post Monday.
“Musk and his legal team, led by attorney Alex Spiro at Quinn Emanuel, have engaged in an aggressive campaign to intimidate, bully, and silence CCDH,” the organization said in a statement released Monday. “While Elon Musk proclaims to be a ‘free speech absolutist,’ his actions against CCDH show the lengths he will go to silence those who seek to hold him to account.”
I mean the alternative possibility is that people dislike Elon and are trying to inflate small things into big ones.
Not that I don't actually suspect hate speech hasn't increased on his platform since he fired most of the staff anyway, but a company does have the right to defend itself legally against accusations and decide it in court.
It's like if you made a company and I had a claim that you were eating babies during lunch. Your defense against me would be a lawsuit in court.
Ok, but if you fire the team responsible for making sure no babies are consumed, and your company cafeteria menu suddenly has a section called All Baby All Day, the only people who will defend you are probably also eating babies at home.
The situation of one of the largest social media platforms in the world, and the proliferation of hate speech in it, are not small things. That place has had real political impact.
Yeah, he has the right, sure. Nobody says he doesn't, nobody says he shouldn't. But right now it's in the media. It's stupid. Now there's more attention drawn to this, and if they lose (though Elon's musk will likely try to bleed them dry rather than try to straight up win) it's now not just a claim, it's a claim backed up by law. He has very little to gain with this stunt.
Tesla is getting a lot of hate for false advertising. He got kicked out of Paypal. I remember him getting heat for overpricing a SpaceX service for Ukraine. Plus his dad hates him.
Theres a lot of evidence about his failed ventures out there
“Your honor, my defense rests on one simple principle: you can’t defame the dead. Elon Musk killed Twitter last week. That is all.”
But on a serious note, Elon is a fucking baby however these cases typically get tossed out basically instantly for being baseless. His intent is likely to make future researchers or just non-anonymous people everywhere never speak the MEAN truth about his stupidity or suffer bullshit law suits. He has the infinite money, it’s not like he cares if a court orders he pay all the fees for wasting time. Normal people can’t accept that risk though or the time off work to deal with it. Basically, he should face imprisonment for a long fucking time to deter HIM from this bullshit. Or, I dunno, seize all his ill gotten capital, I dunno.
It's a game of stupid chicken, because the moment someone actually goes to court instead of settling he's just given them a platform to prove how much of a dipshit he is.
To moderators: if the mega thread style doesn’t work, could we consider splitting out Musk-news to some other community? The topics comes rapidly and gain a lot of interest, but it’s such a narrow perspective on technology and just drowns other news.
Why would people who want to talk about Twitter/X even go to a community created by people who want to see less of it? We consider this Technology news.
At least on Reddit I used RES filters to block all posts with certain people in the subjects. Cuts down on a lot of low-effort gossip from people hate-posting news.
Yeah, seriously. Anyone who pays attention know that the new Twitter with the new X might as well have been a Swastika or the cross of a Confederate flag, so what the research group is claiming to have data on isn't really news at all.
But him making a lawsuit out of it makes it much more likely that this will be reported and mentioned across most of the western world, your parents might even hear about it.
Just a correction, Hitler and Nazi party never used Swastika, the original name of the symbol was "Hakenkreuz" in German.
There is no mention of the word "Swastika" in any of the writings and speeches of the Nazi party.
Hakenkreuz was wrongly translated to Swastika when the translation was carried out in English from German.
The correct translation of Hakenkreuz in English would be "Hooked Cross".
Swastika is a similar looking sacred Hindu and Buddhist symbol, maybe because of it's similarity this error occurred and it went unchallenged in international forums as Hindus and Buddhists didn't even know how their sacred symbol was misappropriated and misrepresented because of mistranslation.
Musk uses that term in his own way - the "free speech absolutist" line came from him talking in reference to Twitter moderation. He consistently claims to allow his critics to say whatever they wish without consequences.
Let's ignore how retarded hate speech is as a concept for a second and think about this from a simple point of view. Organizations like CCDH, ADL, SPLC, and so on serve no value to society. They don't offer products, services, and they don't help anybody. Their job is justify their own existence, and they do so by publishing bullshit under the guise of morality. If you ever looked at their publications it always nonsense. It is either hyperpartisan bullshit that seeks to censor opposition, hyperbalized claims that aren't sourced, or made up solutions that aren't backed by any evidence. All these non profits are run the same. They're run by fraudulent figures who make money by coercing institutions into donating to them in hopes of gaining credibility and avoiding a slander campaign against them. It's basically a ponzi scheme with elements of extortion. Fuck them. As much as I hate Musk and Twitter, these parasitic organizations are 1000x worse.
**’X is a free public service funded largely by advertisers.‘
‘the CCDH gained access to X’s data without Brandwatch’s authorization.’**
The real problem here is that Twitter/X user's data can be easily revealed by organizations.
While I believe that everyone has the right to express their own opinions, even if they differ from others.
However, I do think that expressing oneself privately is much safer and better for one's own well-being.
**’X is a free public service funded largely by advertisers.‘
What do you think this changes about the discussion in any way?
X being 'free' or not matters not one whit while they platform nazis and white supremacists.
‘the CCDH gained access to X’s data without Brandwatch’s authorization.’**
This seems like a problem for Brandwatch to address with the CCDH more than an issue for X. X's concern should be whether or not they're hosting nazis and white supremacists. If X has any concern, it ultimately comes to the poor way Brandwatch secured the data.
That's how defense of this stuff always works. They subtly change the meaning of commonly accepted words and terms. "Service available to the public" becomes "public service" and "Nazis are good" becomes "an opinion" instead of hate speech.