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Douche.
The answer was clearly "Try"
We haven't even done that yet.
The path on how to start is clear enough. Voluntarily surrendering weapons, followed by mandatory, decades later we'll see results. But I don't think you're the type to participate in gun control discussions in good faith.
The fact that real kinder eggs are illegal because of safety concerns and guns are not is mindblowing.
It is easier to get a gun in the states than it is to get a kinder egg with a little toy in it.
That's an absolute lie. I can buy a kinder egg no questions asked online. You can't sell them as food with plastic pieces inside them, though.
In most US states you have a huge amount of regulation on guns you need to be familiar with and of course it's different state by state.
Try to cross the border into the states with a real kinder egg and then we can talk about where the lies are.
I have? It's literally an FDA thing, not something generally enforced by border patrol or regular cops. Customs might stop you if you declare it but frankly I doubt it. They're more likely to stop you if they think it's a real egg.
How out of touch can you be?
How out of touch can you be?
You are the one fighting over kinder eggs dude.
Btw I've gone across the border and had them taken away so... Yea
Anyhow you are pointless.
You are the one making dumb ass claims about kinder eggs, not me. Look in the mirror and out the window once in a while
You are still ranting about kinder eggs??
Yikes.
You know bettterhelp.com is less expensive than you might think...
Try how? Go on, what can I do right now today to start fixing the problem? See if you can answer without an insult.
Read further down the thread.
Nah.
Fucking moron.
“Try” is not a viable answer to the problem of physically taking peoples’ weapons away.
People just make claims that it should be done without actually thinking about the “how” to do it.
When certain people (granted, it would be a ton) refuse to voluntarily turn in their weapons, what is your solution?
Again, the point is we're not even there yet. We can theory craft all we want, and you can poke imaginary holes in every measure taken. And in the end, you will still reach the conclusion of "if it's not perfect, why try?" and nothing will change.
So, why bother? No matter what solutions someone brings to the table, you will not be satisfied.
I've yet to see a solution come to the table. That's my point. There certainly are plenty of people making claims that it needs to be done, but no one to provide the "how."
Draw a line in the sand for weapon varieties. For me, that's semi auto. Allow shotguns, bolt action rifles, etc for practical use and self defense. But any line will be hotly debated.
Ban sales of new ones. Give X years for voluntary surrender of existing ones.
After voluntary window expires, send authorities after registered ones, or just send fines for a while.
Any crime after mandatory kicks in gets multiplied if an illegal gun was in proximity.
Then, time.
Happy? It's pretty simple to get started. Then iterate when actual problems manifest.
After voluntary window expires, send authorities after registered ones, or just send fines for a while.
This part doesn't work with your "solution." Do you expect the police to enter people's homes and take their guns?
Iterative. Fines, court dates, warrants when it comes down to it. Sentencing enhancements for crimes.
I wouldn't send authorities into homes, no.
Fines, court dates and warrants do not take firearms out of the hands of people that would rather die than give them up. You'd eventually need SWAT tasks force level initiatives to go and kill resistors eventually; I find that highly unethical.
And there it is. Exactly what I said was going to happen. What was the point of this exercise?
And there it is...? Would you have preferred I started off with that statement in the future?
The point is that you cannot effectively remove guns in the US, without substantially increasing loss of life, and that's why it doesn't happen.
Let me remind you of my comment above
Again, the point is we’re not even there yet. We can theory craft all we want, and you can poke imaginary holes in every measure taken. And in the end, you will still reach the conclusion of “if it’s not perfect, why try?” and nothing will change.
So, why bother? No matter what solutions someone brings to the table, you will not be satisfied.
You proved that correct. There was no point to any of this.
