This is the dumbest response to any sort of argument and meant intentionally to make an argument rather than a discussion. Facts don't care about feelings, but people do. And if you don't care about the person you are talking to you are just a hack looking to exploit.
Granted I'm human and have made this mistake when people forget about facts and try to bring them the side I see and have faultered. But I'm not trying to exploit it into a brand of morality and claim I am better than anyone else either.
"Facts don't care about your feelings" is a statement geared toward people upset at the fact a certain statement is true. And it is true, usually. Reality supercedes people's feelings and to get along in life you do have to accept that.
Arguing "Well, people DO care about feelings and if you don't cater to them and avoid offending us, we won't listen to you" means all of jack and shit to people like that because they're not actually trying to get you to do anything, they're just speaking for the sake of it. If anything, they're doing you a favor and your negative reaction does nothing but justify their negative worldview that convinced them to prioritize reality over your feelings to begin with.
See, you care only about your feelings, but clearly not theirs because in the face of facts you are blatantly resorting to emotional blackmail and, quite frankly, bullying, so why would they give a shit about how you feel?
In their minds you're nothing but childish, immature dipshits and you prove their point when you talk about your feelings in discussions about anything but that. They could be talking about peas and carrots and you'd be bitching about how your feelings got hurt when they told you carrots were not originally orange but were bred that way and you threw a hissy fit because that opens holes in your worldview.
You all are something else, man. I see why the right wing thinks you're a joke.
Goddamn, you really got yourself worked up there, and a shit take to boot. Most of the time that someone uses the phrase "facts don't care about your feelings" those people are arguing in bad faith, cherry picking data and purposefully excluding context to cater to their desired conclusion. My go to example is the statistics of violent crime convictions by race. There are so many extraneous details to that statistic that you could never truly conclude anything based on that statistic alone. It fails to take into account the environmental conditions, social factors, economic factors, and biases in the justice system when you present that statistic at face value.
Yep, see, point proven. The first thing you did was to instantly react and get defensive instead of thinking about what they're saying because your feelings were hurt and that's all you give a shit about, not whatever the hell they were originally talking about.
You didn't consider that not everyone who says "facts don't care about your feelings" is speaking in bad faith, you just identify that statement as a tribal marker. Because you're an emotional thinker and not a rational one.
Or that people who are not right-wingers also argue in bad faith or concern troll. You'll probably take a potshot at me by claiming I'm one -- proving the statement right -- because all you care about are your personal feelings.
Or that they could be government spooks forum sliding. I have personally witnessed that happening right here on Lemmy several times.
There is so much more to life than your base animalistic fee-fees and you'd see that if you actually learned how to debate properly, took a step outside of yourself and fucking breathed. But that's a you problem, not a me problem. All I can do is warn you. It's up to you to inevitably not listen and wind up suffering when you keep getting pwned in shitty internet arguments.
Are you responding to the correct comment? I literally never said anything defensive... basically nothing you said applies to me or my comment, so it's pretty clear you are engaging in some egregious projection there. Hopefully you figure your problems out.
I mean, where did I specify right-wingers in my comment? I intentionally left it open because of course people of different opinions are capable of bad faith argument. Once again, you are projecting, and it's making you look silly.
I can see that reading isn't your thing. In a podcast, yes it's a hacky gimmick that right wing dumbasses repeat because critical thinking isn't about as abundant as teeth or girls that they share amongst themselves.
But when you are actually talking to someone, feelings do matter. Or you are just blurting out stuff for your own ego. Your facts don't mean shit to the person listening unless you care about how they are receiving the information.
No one, and I mean this stronger than I do to anyone I have ever said anything to (including my son or mother), no one, is so important that their information is above this social norms.
There is no saving humanity conversation like in the movies. Or some dumb hero's quest with your knowledge. You are just like the rest of us. Your facts are easily found. The relationships you have with people are not.
Feelings do matter in the real world. It's a snake oil salesman pitch to sell a "real man's" cosplay that people buy because they can't look internally to actually fix themselves.
Holy fuck, you turned around and did the exact same thing I said you would do and you proved my point. You really do only care about your feelings. Color me surprised.
Proving my point exactly. You care more about revenge than the subject of conversation, ergo you are entirely deserving of the derision of people who tell you "facts don't care about your feelings".
What you're doing right now is why people tell you that facts don't care about your feelings and, in your case, to grow the fuck up.
Case in point, how you opened up your last comment by telling me "I see reading isn't your thing" and then tried to report posts I made to the c/leopardsatemyface sub.
That I am a mod of.
The sub I created.
That's the kind of pettiness, childishness and immaturity people who tell you "facts don't care about your feelings" are calling you out on and they're right.
Being an adult means you have to be willing to put your feelings to the side and you're clearly not capable of doing that. Not even when you so blatantly prove a so-called opponent right.
Oh look what you've done. You've driven me to point at Sartre's antisemite quote:
Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.